On 6/17/2022 10:17 AM, Jim Porter wrote:
> On 6/17/2022 4:59 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
>> Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
>>
>>> See bug#44824.
>>
>> Ah, right.  The fix proposed there was:
>>
>>      org.el: Avoid xdg-open silent failure
>>      * lisp/org.el (org-open-file): Use 'pipe :connection-type instead of
>>      'pty to prevent killing of background process on handler exit.
>>
>> Perhaps Jim has some comments here; added to the CCs.
>
> Yeah, this is an issue with how `start-file-process' is being called in
> Eshell (see `eshell-gather-process-output'). If I call `(setq
> process-connection-type nil)' before running gio in Eshell, it works fine.

Oh right... I remember looking at a related issue before. Note: I don't
think this will directly fix the issue in this bug, but it might affect
how we do fix this, so I'm mentioning it here.

`eshell-needs-pipe-p' has a link to bug#1388, which discusses why that
function exists in the first place. Basically, if `eshell-needs-pipe-p'
didn't exist, then the following Eshell command wouldn't work right[1]:

   ~ $ *echo "1+1" | bc

However, the solution isn't quite right if you think about it: while
it's true that bc's stdin should be a pipe, couldn't its stdout still be
a pty? The all-or-nothing nature of "pipe vs pty" seems a bit
over-restrictive. For example, this is (part of) why piping to `less' is
so broken in Eshell. If you remove "less" from `eshell-visual-commands',
you can see some of the issues. The following works ok, though you get
the "dumb terminal" interface for less:

   ~ $ less file.txt

But this fails:

   ~ $ cat file.txt | less
   Missing filename ("less --help" for help)

I believe that's because `less' sees that stdin is a pty in that case
and so it expects a filename. However, adding `less' to
`eshell-needs-pipe' fails though because then `less' thinks stdout is a
pipe too, so you don't even get the dumb terminal UI; it just forwards
stdin to stdout unchanged.

Fixing this would get rid of the current uses for `eshell-needs-pipe-p',
but then we'd probably want to keep it around in a slightly different
form in order to handle gio/xdg-open properly. What we do about the
issue described above would probably determine how the contents of
`eshell-needs-pipe' should be specified.

[1] The "*" in that command is to use the real /bin/echo, since bc
expects a trailing newline and Eshell's built-in echo doesn't do that.