From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Aaron S. Hawley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10654: 24.0.93; isearch-yank-line moved from C-y Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:19:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1a8vkp9g2v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327954821 9731 80.91.229.3 (30 Jan 2012 20:20:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10654@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 30 21:20:20 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrxi7-0000bE-I0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:20:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59216 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrxi6-00047Y-Nl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:20:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53634) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrxhj-00041l-Ky for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:20:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrxhf-0002Wc-1n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:19:55 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42038) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrxhe-0002WS-U3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:19:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrxhp-0004A7-T2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:20:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Aaron S. Hawley" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10654 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10654-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10654.132795478915975 (code B ref 10654); Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:20:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10654) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2012 20:19:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45661 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrxhc-00049b-Qq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:19:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-bk0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44]:65343) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrxha-00049O-Ht for 10654@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:19:47 -0500 Original-Received: by bkbzt4 with SMTP id zt4so3619824bkb.3 for <10654@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:19:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=FBO/ZLWSJWSnOOVAKeeddtmemtUEOtUTgEpaxzeFQOs=; b=FDjYUCdW2PTUsYSHsxIwp5+D5pv77kMGaCOaNV9IgPscbt+qmc9nsqS5+TsxFwFYO+ IOc+fTJ/p/7knCV+ofGVeb7117/E+z3RigulBJGBnNvr1QhFEA8lEPoE3ma7A9pC1MtD FUj5AIZFs9MmLEXTovhrqwKVHZgEyDlnDVOYM= Original-Received: by 10.204.151.196 with SMTP id d4mr9373039bkw.29.1327954769313; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:19:29 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.204.188.8 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:19:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1a8vkp9g2v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:56252 Archived-At: On 1/30/12, Glenn Morris wrote: > "Aaron S. Hawley" wrote: > >> I don't have any data to support that C-y is popular. > > The weight of opinion seems to be against you. This is what I expected. Thanks for tracking down the threads, Glenn. It would seem the binding for hitting C-y in Isearch to yank the rest of the line existed ever since Daniel LaLiberte wrote Isearch 20 years ago. I guess its time has come. This means hitting C-k C-/ C-s C-y rather than C-s C-y. I can relinquish that C-y in Isearch wasn't consistent with global C-y in Emacs, but if word and character yanking are on C-w and C-M-y, respectively, it seems like line-yanking should be on a better binding than M-s C-e. Thanks again, aaron > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=7700#11 > I've always found the C-y binding in isearch "useless" and > counter-intuitive. I'd much rather make C-y and M-y behave like they > do in the minibuffer. > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8183#5 > While I'm sure there's someone in the world who has a use for > searching for the entire next line, there are many, many more people > who find it useful to search for items from the kill ring. > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-11/msg00687.html > I was reluctant about it in the first place. > >> I can confirm that putting `isearch-yank-line' to the `M-s C-e' >> binding is unsatisfying (M-s C-k makes more sense). > > Here is the motivation: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-11/msg00606.html > bind `isearch-yank-line' to `M-s C-e' because `move-end-of-line' is > on `C-e'. -- In general, we reserve the right to have a poor memory--the computer, however, is supposed to remember! Poor computer. -- Guy Lewis Steele Jr.