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From: Barry OReilly <gundaetiapo@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 15045@debbugs.gnu.org, David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>,
	Eric Ludlam <eric@siege-engine.com>
Subject: bug#15045: Point jumps inappropriately around time of Semantic lexing
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 15:32:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFM41H3RqPtvamvJexOx2QAX4VKxb6YX3qoLZaqcv22De_8ANg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFM41H0Nuk0AkfdaAsUSH7DPuc-+YV-LrN4QU4OdNgokm=WdxQ@mail.gmail.com>

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> >> >> That sounds wrong.
> >> > Are you saying that using the READABLE_EVENTS_DO_TIMERS_NOW flag
above
> >> > is wrong?
> >> I think so: input-pending-p is not expected to wait, so I don't see any
> >> reason to run timers.
> > I think the only reason, as with all the other places where we run
> > timers, is to make Emacs look appear more responsive, notwithstanding
> > the on-going processing.
>
> I suspect that the users of input-pending-p which care about running
> timers would be better served by (sit-for 0 t).  Currently, it's 100%
> equivalent, but the intention is a lot more clear.

Given this has come up again separately in bug 15567, may I make the
change to input-pending-p?

diff --git a/src/keyboard.c b/src/keyboard.c
index e0cd4d4..fdb7c7d 100644
--- a/src/keyboard.c
+++ b/src/keyboard.c
@@ -9962,8 +9962,7 @@ if there is a doubt, the value is t.  */)
   /* Process non-user-visible events (Bug#10195).  */
   process_special_events ();

-  return (get_input_pending (READABLE_EVENTS_DO_TIMERS_NOW
-                            | READABLE_EVENTS_FILTER_EVENTS)
+  return (get_input_pending (READABLE_EVENTS_FILTER_EVENTS)
          ? Qt : Qnil);
 }

'make check' passes.

Eli Zaretskii:
> What if input arrives because of a timer?

If this is an issue, I propose input-pending-p return t if a timer is
ready to run. Then the long running task would exit, unwind its
save-excursion, then allow the timer to run. Perhaps this contorts the
meaning of "input", but OTOH the documentation for input-pending-p
already states that a false positive return can happen:

  Return t if command input is currently available with no wait.
  Actually, the value is nil only if we can be sure that no input is
  available; if there is a doubt, the value is t.

Would you want this in the same changeset as the patch above? Or not
worry about it until "someone screams"?

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-14 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-07 17:59 bug#15045: Point jumps inappropriately around time of Semantic lexing Barry OReilly
2013-08-07 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-07 18:42   ` David Engster
2013-08-07 19:31     ` Barry OReilly
2013-08-07 19:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-07 20:39         ` Barry OReilly
2013-08-08  2:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-08 17:07             ` Barry OReilly
2013-08-08 17:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-07 21:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-08 17:21     ` David Engster
2013-08-08 18:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-08 18:13         ` David Engster
2013-08-08 21:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-08 22:51           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09  7:56             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 14:03               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 14:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 17:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 18:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-08 20:03       ` Barry OReilly
2013-08-08 20:30         ` David Engster
2013-08-08 21:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09  5:36             ` David Engster
2013-08-09  7:53               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 11:50                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-08-09 13:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 14:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 14:19                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 18:08                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 18:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 18:41                           ` David Engster
2013-08-09 20:49                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09 21:36                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-10  9:42                               ` David Engster
2013-08-09 21:46                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 16:10                 ` David Engster
2013-08-09 18:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-10  9:54                     ` David Engster
2013-08-10 10:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-10 18:06                         ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-14 19:32                           ` Barry OReilly [this message]
2013-10-14 19:51                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-15 13:42                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-15 14:12                                 ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-15 16:28                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-15 17:08                                     ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-15 18:48                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-15 19:19                                         ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-16  2:57                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-16 14:57                                         ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-16 17:50                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-16 18:32                                             ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-17 15:03                                             ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-17 18:18                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-17 20:01                                                 ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-18  0:27                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 14:03                                                     ` Barry OReilly
2013-10-25 19:15                                                       ` Barry OReilly
2013-11-14 18:21                                                         ` Barry OReilly
2013-11-16  4:14                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-16  4:54                                                             ` Barry OReilly
2013-11-16 17:37                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-16 20:33                                                                 ` Barry OReilly
2013-11-16 21:29                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09 18:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09  9:12               ` martin rudalics
2013-08-09 16:27                 ` David Engster
2013-08-09 17:10                   ` martin rudalics
2013-08-09 18:51                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-08 21:26         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-08 21:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-08 22:50             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-09  7:54               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-08 21:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-09  3:26       ` Eric M. Ludlam

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