From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Williams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28790: [PATCH] Replaced "which see" with "q.v.". 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Sat, 14 Oct 2017 15:52:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: kMnBlIGOMLRvyKDI60XhNX1bpic X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:138426 Archived-At: --001a1143d1d0094129055b89a088 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I was trying to make the least disruptive change I could, but if simply removing the redundant text would be more acceptable, I'd be happy to rework my patch to do that. On Oct 14, 2017 3:07 PM, "Glenn Morris" wrote: > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > The absolute majority of your proposed changes are in the doc strings, > > where we already have a direct link to the documentation of a symbol > > whose name precedes "which see". So whether the reader understands > > that or doesn't, the link is already there to click on, and no harm is > > done by a relatively rare use of this phrase. > > IMO there is no benefit either, as you explain above. "which see" is an > anachronism in the age of hyperlinks. Is there any logic to where these > "rare uses" appear - why do some links get them and most not? If there's > no logic and no benefit, they should be removed as unnecessary verbiage. > --001a1143d1d0094129055b89a088 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was trying to make the least disruptive change I could,= but if simply removing the redundant text would be more acceptable, I'= d be happy to rework my patch to do that.
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On Oct 14, 2017 3:07 PM, "Glenn Morris&q= uot; <rgm@gnu.org> wrote:
Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> The absolute majority of your proposed changes are in the doc strings,=
> where we already have a direct link to the documentation of a symbol > whose name precedes "which see".=C2=A0 So whether the reader= understands
> that or doesn't, the link is already there to click on, and no har= m is
> done by a relatively rare use of this phrase.

IMO there is no benefit either, as you explain above. "which see"= is an
anachronism in the age of hyperlinks. Is there any logic to where these
"rare uses" appear - why do some links get them and most not? If = there's
no logic and no benefit, they should be removed as unnecessary verbiage.
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