From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carlos Pita Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51196: 29.0.50; python.el eldoc problems Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 17:33:57 -0300 Message-ID: References: <87o87qdomy.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30143"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 51196@debbugs.gnu.org To: Augusto Stoffel Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 15 22:35:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mbTv6-0007fz-Ba for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 22:35:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55098 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbTv4-0005Yu-Ii for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=JtzqEqVtJGS2Db/XI+02e2XvqMfZjIn/ESmV/13toLA=; b=r2vWQOJJUGBmKQWpATZQQP4jKF+v1FNTcwM80lnCKE4U3m5VxNLbl7Pg7Zl815WAXu bWzue9DaMX3VVD6qKvF9lkdlcj79inYpe2xDfhjooatrNx2MZQldafs0vYz7X4GXQD+s vts0O+Dzwj8GWC0sCE0Rs8+jC0QgFqxTmijH9zZcmp803vuPD0x0BKu6nQghbEnoW/Sm jRzE+Q357A2g94l63kvn6J2geum3vNMr0XJAmJA74Nf7wuPvJL9Q4A2hUvwChukcon3O ZjjhNIqDqrFNAfwZOc79z5ompLHK+z42ggDIuygK9z23CbGHkMX+qGHzz4KuLwh8j0QN zN0g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5308h1EPkqRmNJM0jePbGiIKgZvj8YYU6TbZkIEnzlU2kegkOJbL JrhyccJVbwJ0lUKofL0LJS3p+g+CiOw6TCsEPGPmH+b3XSM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxOV/Q5NRnNbuBSqQ6+j7anet37gNIxloAgN+xVhgGd/2CzuXMhKRGOyh20mhK6QMymhu1TgcpLbwOR0lRG65Q= X-Received: by 2002:a25:49c3:: with SMTP id w186mr15729437yba.429.1634330051481; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 13:34:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87o87qdomy.fsf@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:217332 Archived-At: Hi Augusto, > > - Have a sane, solid and simple python.el with good syntax highlighting, > > movements commands, folding, etc. and leave the cleverness to elpy, > > lsp-mode, eglot, emacs-jupyter or whatever. > > But the problematic Eldoc functionality is disabled by default, right? > So leaving it there doesn't hurt anyone --- except for the unwitting > user who doesn't know that this feature is kind of broken. No, it's not, all the magic is enabled by default, only piecemeal measures have been taken over the years in order to prevent blocking behavior, so for example now eldoc disables itself forever after 1s timeout. But that's not true of non-native completion AFAICS and it certainly isn't of C-c C-f (help on symbol). And improving on this by adding even more special cases doesn't sound like a good idea. Best regards, Carlos