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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: christopher@librehacker.com, rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com,
	74261@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#74261: 30.0.92; Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of dynamic binding
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:05:02 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmnx+bQ-W5Z4rybtvezZuZTsPKTdxGz4UvPj4GVSDvteUw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864j3relxq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:40:01 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
>> Cc: christopher@librehacker.com, drew.adams@oracle.com,
>> 	74261@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:54:25 -0500
>>
>>   > > But I think it is useful to show this warning when person A looks at
>>   > > person B's file.  Person A is likely to assume the file use lexical
>>   > > binding, when just about all files do so; therefore, it is useful to
>>   > > inform A that this file makes the unusual choice.
>>
>>   > That could be the case, yes.
>>
>>   > However, another way of looking at such situation is that if the
>>   > author (person B) decided the file should use dynamic scoping, that's
>>   > "good enough" for person A.
>>
>> I think this sentence may have changed the question unintentionally.
>> "That's good enough for A" means "A should not object to what B
>> decided".  In that sense, think B's addition of he file variable often
>> _should_ be good enough for A.
>>
>> But the question we were discussing is not whether A has a right to
>> object to B's decision.  It is whether A is aware of B's decision for
>> that file.  The warning will help make A aware of it.
>
> What I meant was that "good enough" here means A should not be
> bothered or made aware.
>
>>                                  For example, assume that person B is
>>   > Emacs maintainers, and the file is part of Emacs.
>>
>> I think it will be useful to warn A that the file is set up to specify
>> dynamic binding.
>
> I tried to make the point that whether it is useful depends on the
> POV.

FWIW, I think Richard's argument here is convincing, so I'd personally
lean towards closing this bug as wontfix.





  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-02  2:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-08 15:33 bug#74261: 30.0.92; Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of dynamic binding Christopher Howard
2024-11-08 18:05 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-11  5:13   ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-11 12:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25  4:32       ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-25 12:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-28  4:54           ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-28  9:40             ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02  2:05               ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2025-01-02  6:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02  6:49                   ` Stefan Kangas

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