From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19568: 24.3; not documented: Which system settings affect the choice of the default font by an uncustomized Emacs 24? Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:24:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21025"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 19568@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ivan Zakharyaschev Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 23 15:35:45 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1khCwS-0005KJ-HZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 15:35:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34364 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khCwR-0006af-Hg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:35:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38846) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khCn4-00034A-I2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:26:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38060) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khCn4-0003WH-90 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:26:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1khCn4-0002B0-5u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:26:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 14:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19568 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 19568-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19568.16061415058297 (code B ref 19568); Mon, 23 Nov 2020 14:26:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2020 14:25:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49605 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1khCm9-00029k-1W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:25:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ej1-f43.google.com ([209.85.218.43]:46545) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1khCm7-00029G-2E for 19568@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:25:03 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ej1-f43.google.com with SMTP id bo9so17772678ejb.13 for <19568@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 06:25:03 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=N+cbQ1LdqN1JEgAB6ptgikgzh+F9/f4sKeRxBksv5Ow=; b=RH00CHa9vmqiGdn0tK0L8iygtiNXexuRGMaevEwAM0Z2C9Dwouj8efO8+7bVOWBI+g MODB2sm5ryvF6o/LLv4zBf+R6CbD67gaj/BNGErnASZaYH2isxJ/ei4/1LMBZzBKMhf8 uCW+sHpj6StNOgysVlVn4HTn9DyY9vOAepdUqKYLsFuJoRXnXQRCgnCIL1nT6cTr3Z18 KSGTp1tbqmp5IFd52yumJBfynfsBbGv7xuVQDdFK4bxfgBKz/ogUx7yBhwrSyVVmlmxA fIrB6TAbBMUV3g925O/HRpJVwUQzKVzmY/rhIeZGqu9wWAizXQwGZUvbqxOwkhdkp8Ju 5FXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530aa/bcWpPvtrXQWeSUFFo3VwXMLXTE5Ov7jy7HP8dz5Zdow8k/ /NCKQwJ1D1K79VpYTgc3CnKiYZBStUe50Pc8asQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxZ4ARZfIjGd6SMU2CMrbN/OD2qUo0nfQNH/+6kzbKKbxQLEtD190lgY5n78Rt3DZLu1zbNhJ5dOspq8of0jq8= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:11d0:: with SMTP id o16mr19326678eja.25.1606141497117; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 06:24:57 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:24:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Ivan Zakharyaschev's message of "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:55:38 +0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:193917 Archived-At: Ivan Zakharyaschev writes: > My situation and the issue are like the ones in > > (Florian Lindner): > >> after the recent upgrade to emacs 24.x (...) my font size >> is too large (one times C-x C-minus corrects it temporarily for the >> buffer). The menu font size is fine, the rest (buffer, mode line, >> minibuffer is too large). I've read about the various ways to set the >> font size. >> >> **Is there a specific reason why the font size has increased after the >> update? And thus a global way to correct it?** > > So, even having read about all the ways to set a font in Emacs, I > haven't found an answer which would explain the difference in font > size between an uncustomized Emacs 23.x and Emacs 24.y. > > Probably, it's as in the follow-up answer (Tassilo Horn): > >> Emacs 24 adds support for gconf and gsettings, so it'll pick whatever >> monospace font and sizes you have set as the default in your system >> settings > > I'd like to know the place these settings are stored, and to tweak > them (so that not only Emacs, but perhaps other similarly behaving > programs would get my font settings). > > I'm especially interested in making the default font size smaller again. > > Unforunately, [in the Emacs > manual](http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Fonts.html) > it is not documented which system settings affect the choice of the > default font by an uncustomized Emacs 24. > > I believe this is an important information for an Emacs user and > should be present in the manual. It seems like Emacs picks up these gconf settings: #define GCONF_TOOL_BAR_STYLE "/desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style" #define GCONF_MONO_FONT "/desktop/gnome/interface/monospace_font_name" #define GCONF_FONT_NAME "/desktop/gnome/interface/font_name" Perhaps we should mention these in the manual? Or is this something that should be documented by gconf itself? How does one even configure this stuff in Gnome? (I don't use it myself.)