From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11168: All headers but one missing in main *Info* buffer Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 18:06:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <40C7B1BFC291ED4E9D10436D07736A334702EBA3CE@EXMAIL7.haas.uc.berkeley.edu> <1AFF549BDD4D42B2AB6995387BF8C7EA@us.oracle.com> <8b2084db-5465-4d6d-b2ae-6e9c2ac91cc7@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2248"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Glenn Morris , Richard Stanton , 11168@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 30 02:23:01 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kYJ88-0000TB-4B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 02:23:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33368 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kYJ87-00039t-65 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 21:22:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50220) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kYIsk-0001Gp-2j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 21:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44002) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kYIsg-0003wj-JO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 21:07:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kYIsg-0005Uw-EY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 21:07:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 01:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11168 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 11168-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11168.160401997221062 (code B ref 11168); Fri, 30 Oct 2020 01:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11168) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2020 01:06:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55545 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kYIrs-0005Td-Gn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 21:06:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-f46.google.com ([209.85.208.46]:36627) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kYIrq-0005TQ-Or for 11168@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 21:06:11 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-f46.google.com with SMTP id l16so4988536eds.3 for <11168@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 18:06:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=eHlhG+Zce9nQ7PMP9nDRNoNPwzkV80d4C05H+PysK8o=; b=hvkA0kYnpgYVDMdUBGAI8bf4KBD2tXLb0K3NK3RDO85Udr5G80Uw82T8UqaQHC9reW G8Z/jb/4ouOs2cRCQVq3V+Rw56NAaC3ya6NCmEeTj2yqhU9F9kfOrWi65d7HLe9QTZ+6 SyAnsmQolRLb4MDR3ohgjWXUT9xeNG5dk1x6/4y86CW8n5pBUxkJy8WeVGkeD1WnU+QO ztJz3UUH6em/AO9v/CDAxbqpXXHdwoRSZ7dqsJHOVHF4sPpxSjP8/0ycQ+R5AEWFfIe8 tZ9Aq14C7dOCNC3s7MNwEdy4Tz1/+Db/vgXwVbHT0h0SKtFdqrlYUOPRsh5Dg9FrJHMu 115Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531JiMAfN86C0xJjjQICpg5LG+hJPuYe+qlnnTk74yhyqV7FzRvD V7emMWH6L02aheULj3UTv8ApIu81JMSAj3Gt6Ao= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJygfB5hE2f6strIgE7R0ZAPMpYjCYf3I/uMZYQihDhhwuaiQMH3QfcL7++IASfcDx3XxmED9w27xYg57Ix3CgQ= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:d28c:: with SMTP id w12mr7229122edq.282.1604019965104; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 18:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 18:06:04 -0700 In-Reply-To: <8b2084db-5465-4d6d-b2ae-6e9c2ac91cc7@default> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:192027 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> > 2. `Info-streamline-headings' should be a user option, not a defvar. >> >> I'm not sure that this is something that people will commonly want to >> customize. > > Why not? (And why must an option be something that's > _commonly_ modified by users?) I just don't think it's all that useful. > In this bug report you have a user asking about the > format/content of Info, with no way to find out about > what's happening, without filing a bug. But that was because there had just been a change, many moons ago. Right? Or have we seen many questions since? IMO, Info-streamline-headings is fine for what it's trying to do, which AFAICT is mainly to consolidate all Emacs stuff under one heading. But it seems to me that the GNU project/Info or whoever should rather make sure that the organization of headlines makes sense. It seems pretty chaotic on my machine, and different projects seem to follow various different conventions. So I'd personally rather users filed bug reports to the respective projects, or to makeinfo, or against the GNU coding standards or something.