From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50446: Emacs FAQ entry "What is the real legal meaning of the GNU copyleft?" still relevant? 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Would you please show me what that item says now? > > Where can I find the source code of this? What repo, what file? commit 8da1f03151f6b98d349fa8eb169514fd1f4bbe02 Author: Lars Ingebrigtsen Date: Thu Sep 9 15:19:56 2021 +0200 Remove the "Real meaning of copyleft" node in efaq * doc/misc/efaq.texi (Real meaning of copyleft): Remove the section (bug#50446). (Common acronyms): Add a link to the GNU site's page about licenses. diff --git a/doc/misc/efaq.texi b/doc/misc/efaq.texi index 9b8fc86508..d5d1eb5e65 100644 --- a/doc/misc/efaq.texi +++ b/doc/misc/efaq.texi @@ -294,6 +294,9 @@ Common acronyms @item GPL GNU General Public License +See @uref{https://gnu.org/licenses/, the GNU web site} for more +information about the GPL. + @end table The word ``free'' in the title of the Free Software Foundation refers to @@ -312,7 +315,6 @@ General questions Free Software Foundation, and related organizations. @menu -* Real meaning of copyleft:: * Guidelines for mailing list postings:: * Mailing list archives:: * Reporting bugs:: @@ -320,36 +322,6 @@ General questions * Contacting the FSF:: @end menu -@node Real meaning of copyleft -@section What is the real legal meaning of the GNU copyleft? -@cindex Copyleft, real meaning of -@cindex GPL, real meaning of -@cindex General Public License, real meaning of -@cindex Discussion of the GPL - -The real legal meaning of the GNU General Public License (copyleft) will -only be known if and when a judge rules on its validity and scope. -There has never been a copyright infringement case involving the GPL to -set any precedents. Although legal actions have been brought against -companies for violating the terms of the GPL, so far all have been -settled out of court (in favor of the plaintiffs). Please take any -discussion regarding this issue to -@uref{https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss, the -gnu-misc-discuss mailing list}, which was created to hold the -extensive flame wars on the subject. - -RMS writes: - -@quotation -The legal meaning of the GNU copyleft is less important than the spirit, -which is that Emacs is a free software project and that work pertaining -to Emacs should also be free software. ``Free'' means that all users -have the freedom to study, share, change and improve Emacs. To make -sure everyone has this freedom, pass along source code when you -distribute any version of Emacs or a related program, and give the -recipients the same freedom that you enjoyed. -@end quotation - @node Guidelines for mailing list postings @section What are appropriate messages for the various Emacs mailing lists? @cindex Mailing lists, appropriate messages for