* bug#74855: 30.0.92; dired - slow copy across (wireless) LAN
@ 2024-12-13 16:37 Christopher Howard
2024-12-19 4:31 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Christopher Howard @ 2024-12-13 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 74855
Hello. Recently I was using dired to transfer 600 files, with about 2GB data total, across our LAN (one wi-fi hop involved). The source was a local directory, and the target was an SSH host on the LAN. I marked the files I wanted with dired-mark-files-regexp, and then used dired-do-copy to send them to "/ssh:<snip>@<snip>:/home/<snip>/<snip>". This took a really long time. Actually, the copy was still going after about 15 hours (overnight) though I could see it had not frozen up, but was still moving files.
Using scp directly, from Gnome console, I am seeing transfer rates of about 2.5 MB/s over the same path. So, I'm wondering why the large disparity. Could somebody explain further how Emacs goes about moving the file data and where the bottleneck would be. Is there room for improvement in this functionality?
In GNU Emacs 30.0.92 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-12-04 built on theoden
Repository revision: 130c2a13dc72fca1677a986d3131398e908e58df
Repository branch: emacs-30
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101012
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* bug#74855: 30.0.92; dired - slow copy across (wireless) LAN
2024-12-13 16:37 bug#74855: 30.0.92; dired - slow copy across (wireless) LAN Christopher Howard
@ 2024-12-19 4:31 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-19 11:48 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2024-12-19 4:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christopher Howard, 74855; +Cc: Michael Albinus
Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> writes:
> Hello. Recently I was using dired to transfer 600 files, with about 2GB data total, across our LAN (one wi-fi hop involved). The source was a local directory, and the target was an SSH host on the LAN. I marked the files I wanted with dired-mark-files-regexp, and then used dired-do-copy to send them to "/ssh:<snip>@<snip>:/home/<snip>/<snip>". This took a really long time. Actually, the copy was still going after about 15 hours (overnight) though I could see it had not frozen up, but was still moving files.
>
> Using scp directly, from Gnome console, I am seeing transfer rates of about 2.5 MB/s over the same path. So, I'm wondering why the large disparity. Could somebody explain further how Emacs goes about moving the file data and where the bottleneck would be. Is there room for improvement in this functionality?
Michael, any comments?
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* bug#74855: 30.0.92; dired - slow copy across (wireless) LAN
2024-12-19 4:31 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2024-12-19 11:48 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2024-12-19 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: Christopher Howard, 74855
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> writes:
> Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> writes:
>
>> Hello. Recently I was using dired to transfer 600 files, with about
>> 2GB data total, across our LAN (one wi-fi hop involved). The source
>> was a local directory, and the target was an SSH host on the LAN. I
>> marked the files I wanted with dired-mark-files-regexp, and then
>> used dired-do-copy to send them to
>> "/ssh:<snip>@<snip>:/home/<snip>/<snip>". This took a really long
>> time. Actually, the copy was still going after about 15 hours
>> (overnight) though I could see it had not frozen up, but was still
>> moving files.
>>
>> Using scp directly, from Gnome console, I am seeing transfer rates
>> of about 2.5 MB/s over the same path. So, I'm wondering why the
>> large disparity. Could somebody explain further how Emacs goes about
>> moving the file data and where the bottleneck would be. Is there
>> room for improvement in this functionality?
>
> Michael, any comments?
Tramp's "ssh" method is not suited for this use case. It encodes the
local file with base64, and decodes it when it has been arrived on the
remote side.
For this given use case, Tramp's "scp" method is better suited. See the
discussion in the manual, (info "(tramp) Connection types") and (info
"(tramp) Frequently Asked Questions") , the entry "How to speed up TRAMP".
Best regards, Michael.
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