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(Bug#69528) >>> BTW, I think this is a backward-incompatible change. >>> Whether we want `lm-version` to return the info from `Version:` or from >>> `Package-Version:` depends on what we want to do with it. AFAICT, we currently use it in `lm-report-bug' and with Joseph's patch we will use it also for `loaddefs-generate--parse-file'. >> When do we want lm-version to return Version and not Package-Version, >> where a (lm-header "version") wouldn't serve as a more specific >> replacement? > > I don't know, but if we never want to return the value of `Version:` > when there's a `Package-Version:` then we don't need `Package-Version:` > either (we should just replace the `Version:` field with the content of > `Package-Version:`). I don't have a strong opinion, but there seems to be a mismatch between what the code does and what the documentation says. "The version number comes from the =E2=80=98Package-Version=E2=80=99 he= ader, if it exists, or from the =E2=80=98Version=E2=80=99 header otherwise." (info "(elisp) Simple Packages")