From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60646: 28.2; delete-selection-mode Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 14:33:01 -0700 Message-ID: References: <878ri5dihq.fsf@yahoo.com> <87sfgd8hb6.fsf@gmail.com> <83sfgd70s4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33899"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, err291@mail.usask.ca, 60646-done@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 05 23:34:25 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qddgn-0008Yt-KK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Tue, 05 Sep 2023 14:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 5 Sep 2023 14:33:01 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83sfgd70s4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 14 Jan 2023 14:34:19 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:269413 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > delete-selection-mode is problematic in that it introduces behavior > that is extremely surprising and annoying to those who are used to the > old-style GUI selections and the Emacs region. That's probably true. I'd personally not use the word "extremely" given that it'd be relatively easy for veterans to turn it off (easier than, say, for beginners to turn it on). > Thus, enabling it by default is out of the question; I don't agree, not completely, but this *is* long-standing behavior, and a change would be controversial. This has been discussed many times, and it's been hard to find a new consensus. I'm therefore closing this bug report. Thanks for reporting it, and I'm sorry if the conclusion is disappointing. We will have a chance to revisit this the next time someone brings it up.