From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56432: run-dig vs dig -- do we need both? Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 15:41:24 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87r12xgv1k.fsf@gnus.org> <87tu7tgtqw.fsf@gmail.com> <83bku15huy.fsf@gnu.org> <837d4p5h5r.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21814"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Robert Pluim , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 56432@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 07 15:42:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o9Rlj-0005X9-11 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 15:42:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44924 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o9Rlh-0001Sq-JI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 09:42:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o9Rla-0001RJ-8I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 09:42:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:33922) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o9RlZ-0001eM-Vi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 09:42:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o9RlZ-0003FK-Tl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 09:42:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2022 13:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 56432 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 56432-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B56432.165720130312455 (code B ref 56432); Thu, 07 Jul 2022 13:42:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 56432) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2022 13:41:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56052 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o9RlH-0003Ep-IC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 09:41:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-f175.google.com ([209.85.215.175]:42941) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o9RlF-0003Ea-DT for 56432@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 09:41:42 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-f175.google.com with SMTP id o18so17403442pgu.9 for <56432@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 06:41:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rIwURe1UbY3k6P7op+y7fNqwO9xaGSVOWdbj5KAw16Q=; b=b72yTx0V5g64bZalzFwxqDOWUy0xLwLSTK75Ahn5rLUWScE7hi8E+dXmAV7dqMJYpp YcLtP2ztX+WDt497w2xBZhQmJjS+fV6RvvdqAnR74qZlQPeU1ANW0EthyTVXikj0yGiO 61mkve3wBpUAOlcWVtpOJVRMR38lolT49xUEZiTIjLJFqzJIzY1wWoYIqeQWBt14xMw0 8hwHgnVKFSoHA1LKIINZEqcpQGRAvQJrjZjRbnoLtUF8SR8rik/iCJRTJZwE8IKn0egU 5NaEADSQxgmt7L/KNsfMrFI209C8CrC5wb5GfqNApEa4ADk2NaPWpBsRG995z31o/HpB lcVw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora/qXjwmVBdkPPwfWPZL4Cjb4vng05Z9ws5aIjctvLWPc2C2Ds/k cgee+h7W94VLiUETWzWs5RVujLUk+jFNTpl4NtQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1uE9wS26G4VUJTraP5Wn2RSDxwWftILIx/PPpuViNN2lXOEKbcInBdSOxIvSqcRJHjiD0DuJUgFnJ3nATP2O54= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:7c0d:b0:16b:7dd2:626c with SMTP id x13-20020a1709027c0d00b0016b7dd2626cmr52474338pll.152.1657201295379; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 06:41:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <837d4p5h5r.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:236365 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > net-utils-machine-at-point does not seem very useful to me (it seems > > to pick up any word whether or not it looks like a domain name?) > > Is it really any worse than not showing any possibly useful default at > all? I found it much worse, but this was mostly due to using the obsolete INITIAL-CONTENTS argument (which meant you had to delete that less than useful input to type something useful). So I've now changed `dig' to use a standard default instead (commit 7b84f9a5d8). > > but perhaps we could use thing-at-point instead? > > If thing-at-point can guess machines better, sure, why not? But if it > isn't better, why not use net-utils-machine-at-point? It seems like the ffap versions are strictly better, so I've replaced the net-utils-* versions with ffap-* (commit a651c309fd).