From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36560: Adding tags is not proof that anybody actually read the bug report Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:30:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <874l3vwhqk.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87y317v2jc.5.fsf_-_@jidanni.org> <83lfx75jm1.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvbvw7g4.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87tvbuzzm7.fsf@tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0000000000006a8093058d48c803" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="129265"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 36560@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson To: "Basil L. 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Contovounesios writes: > FWIW, the Debbugs URL format and M-x gnus-read-ephemeral-emacs-bug-group > trick are already described in admin/notes/bugtracker, which is > referenced at the start of bug-triage: Dang, you are correct. Maybe it's not a good idea to duplicate information (lest one of the locations will fall out of sync with the other). But the bugtracker file makes it sound like you need to be a Gnus user to use M-x gnus-read-ephemeral-emacs-bug-group, which is a bit misleading. It also doesn't mention how to view a bug in its "Quick-start guide". The attached patch tries to fix the above two issues by adding a new section "How do I read a bug?" to the "Quick-start guide" with both of these methods covered. What do you think? 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