From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50880: Add "Contributing to Emacs" help command (see C-h C-h) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 01:51:04 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8735pndfna.fsf@gnus.org> <878rzf9xtk.fsf@gnus.org> <25d8d72022560012a303@heytings.org> <87a6jtw6ki.fsf@gnus.org> <83zgrtdp6e.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37201"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 50880@debbugs.gnu.org, Gregory Heytings To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 03 01:52:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mWona-0009Om-Cz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 01:52:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38464 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWonY-0000XH-RY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 19:52:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58084) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWonS-0000Ws-BH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 19:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49235) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWonS-0004Q9-3D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 19:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWonR-000240-TX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 19:52:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2021 23:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50880 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 50880-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50880.16332186847887 (code B ref 50880); Sat, 02 Oct 2021 23:52:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50880) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2021 23:51:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60781 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWomq-000238-1l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 19:51:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-f46.google.com ([209.85.216.46]:46742) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWomn-00022v-UH for 50880@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 19:51:22 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-f46.google.com with SMTP id oj15-20020a17090b4d8f00b0019f8860d6e2so2674875pjb.5 for <50880@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 16:51:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=uHhizhfK0okSExfNaO2DIwaP+AxtvqvCHTa0XelN2Z4=; b=dqdPMlbmRh/lXeqfWxcHJQzO9S/G5dowCFNc8gniFRfndS8Z5WVUdgWh51RxLR5auY LvgCDtmehmQ0FVCBkv3rgWTRsuY49Eo7JyhjNEgV1GwUt9kwD4hhH7Xd5itVHNKPOtxN N0NAf4318Czf/nQ6h6w9WfEGff2lALlMcPFgBWcjmkrZd6WKRA3yhOIwEl6ALFcKAasz 9D3GiI46QVahPOY4fumCaEBGT1gGTKEQvU41m0rRCgnBUphncuy9IZ3i4Kv5dw1QRDOk Ouxs6TgzJkQ3JRuPcQLXjoinDOkM/x+x4BycI/cvwu7vpgvcoXAtwkCjtZf4FR0G3i/5 0Gxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531KBbZyV+uyPb49akOnCVQ59hYTOnCO8iWRwzrprc9VBUDC9kS+ iTNBRb1s7Jz8+UNkR2IsKntBZLR4+tZgt6HRzSo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxkJ7ernmqPSJLZYU+SVDn0hwQuu+YLzosYcfreXwycuYcNIM+3y9PcvDoHGDaUYkbsvMsgHOCX9gTdKrARzzQ= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:460a:: with SMTP id w10mr28234722pjg.132.1633218676070; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 16:51:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:216211 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > However, it may be necessary to give it a key binding > so it can appear in the Help menu. And having it appear there > is useful. That's indeed the only reason it would need one. Adding a new command to the help-for-help screen without out a keybinding makes it go from looking basically acceptable to very visually unbalanced. Unfortunately, that is basically unavoidable with it's tabular format. If we really don't want a keybininding, I think this aspect would make it not worth adding to the help-for-help screen, and the question then would be if the command is even worth adding at all. I'm biased, of course, as I spent some time making sure that the help-for-help screen looks acceptable. I hope that we can attempt to preserve that new good look by not adding new commands without keybindings to it.