From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19822: url-retrieve: allow to fail when no document is associated with the URI Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 16:06:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87o8z2l4hs.fsf@gnus.org> <835zladzbx.fsf@gnu.org> <87wodqgs0z.fsf@gnus.org> <83tv8uchxf.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7aldf0d.fsf@gnus.org> <87pnjg603k.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="209678"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 19822@debbugs.gnu.org, Ivan Shmakov To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 01 16:08:03 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIos-000sPS-Q3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 16:08:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42606 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIor-0003aR-JT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:08:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35227) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFInz-0002zg-4R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:07:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFInu-0000nd-B3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:07:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53637) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFInu-0000nJ-7T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFInt-0006PF-Ub for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:07:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 14:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19822 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 19822-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19822.156993878224569 (code B ref 19822); Tue, 01 Oct 2019 14:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 14:06:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34225 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFInF-0006OC-Kx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:06:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:42647) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFInD-0006Nw-LA for 19822@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:06:20 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-f169.google.com with SMTP id q12so8073412pff.9 for <19822@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 07:06:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BV9NhfIFGx1pN+RJsuLDHXnmfCh4TSpBsvoWLIoVWgM=; b=jOIszTLicq8BBUHN5k9EiGiDDej2X7aAqv7RMExrJ3ixUZ1RKKhJ74Ya+TJKulK78g d+y7sLRHvzaOS63QMMNTPOqpdVNHXOYuJMQxnKBHyTAQihDGAxXLmfR1KsL2jtwpljrP T7yubrNoylVBjTWpGjfB9adBF9Y9sGcnCqm/VoXg0M8QbGg5sdsp4DX0dp/w2V9ERgI+ 37heQMWIvOExlbkpFUAaIKwocHCgLjuxbYbvw5i+X+qIsu5RAcx4qfSBBnSLHwlPs2Mv hn+fdcdWhhzX5AQHjlMP/8GL9Irp3wJNiY8u4cr0NIlLG58n2K7ySYlNk0PYXcYo3H7x w8lw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV9qpVsa/nFxEHBm7gvzuyixRfKv5Wuh3RxBR793Qpix5bSQGr0 zalDxBsXkvEzjCDacBM8paI60G/mSm7JYCApXDg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy7tVgJA98/5sQ6zocsBJV+i/e3CXNtUsnuSuAtHoMibFADVFAziRyx3XavXC71sN3/zYLAkSoGvKGqv+EP87w= X-Received: by 2002:a63:720f:: with SMTP id n15mr28995019pgc.198.1569938773666; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87pnjg603k.fsf@gnus.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:168006 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > I don't feel very strongly about this, but I'm curious: Why don't you > > want to obsolete at least some of them? I think they add user > > confusion and are just not very helpful. > > I think an across-the-board obsoletion is easier to communicate than > doing it piece by piece. Good point, thanks. > > Personally, I wouldn't mind a middle ground here: to only obsolete the > > very low hanging fruit. To be more concrete, it doesn't seem to me > > that it would take much effort to immediately obsolete url-irc.el, > > url-news.el, url-imap.el and url-ns.el. > > Oh, I missed irc: and ns:. :-/ Yes, those are pretty useless... Given the above, how about just obsoleting url-ns.el? This file handles Netscape configuration files, and there should be no problem communicating the irrelevancy of that. Best regards, Stefan Kangas