From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29805: 27.0; doc of `tooltip-resize-echo-area' Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 10:48:00 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5A3D4775.2010700@gmx.at> <7614565b-94d6-40fe-a3d1-cf51235a21bc@default> <5A3E14EC.3010809@gmx.at> <5A3EA97E.9060501@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23131"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 29805@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 23 19:49:18 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1meL8w-0005qz-Kn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 19:49:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49738 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meL8u-0005q1-LZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 13:49:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52294) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meL8h-0005nk-CZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 13:49:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1meL8g-000511-Ix for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 13:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1meL8g-0004wg-HX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 13:49:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 17:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29805 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 29805-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29805.163501129218922 (code B ref 29805); Sat, 23 Oct 2021 17:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29805) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2021 17:48:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37124 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1meL7r-0004v8-Vw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 13:48:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:35595) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1meL7n-0004ut-3L for 29805@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 13:48:10 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-f172.google.com with SMTP id n12so315392plc.2 for <29805@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 10:48:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=G+SddSxSBnx1WDWy9wGIftTDjGFYwEBYg8NLVk6VYaU=; b=H9gGqTrf5I/FOEPLHWvmVRkYDBcJN3R5j98e2K9JWkJl89nDE9WTYS59LsyB7fnXAP MCKvw+kbiGUOEvtHXR+cFCyf/1gR1NzySlNEIhofiXsaNtu+jMPeUaJnAZHy1h6b8x9L SgipsAUvXeLvZ5lljc3lQvsZgjrfDC+0FZ1eQsQGK+WeuQGmnBOFa4q9J7m1broMoRUb ktgK3qFUI0i8HgCiJA5QuKKxWHVVExOmWbjzIvWd3jBCTtPqjfojxoI9VmC8cswkvaMZ lIezF7CYEfgcdcxKTPGTBBxiOCCH/qlu8APuXwwm5YUP15HPlpPWkJqazwBVdAzds1j+ AIWw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532lx9YFuUR5EdNaE8NO7aaqGz1XEG/znwNqA2zrMUtWdPsQlo15 2Wv8BmipKBqZgSCtZqqiIv3ajV5VUdfZ+EyBwEs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxiIOqEdVix5J4H/03EPErKrSYZZse7skCN4X1m07M2I+NhT6H2SsYyqHExoYgi71IFF1GYTOsKvAdzLfUaxoI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:e750:b0:140:2693:b2e8 with SMTP id p16-20020a170902e75000b001402693b2e8mr6801572plf.22.1635011281286; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 10:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 23 Oct 2021 10:48:00 -0700 In-Reply-To: <5A3EA97E.9060501@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sat, 23 Dec 2017 20:07:42 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:218011 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: >> This bug is not about whether or when there should or >> should not be resizing. It is about the doc, which >> can (so far) give the impression that this resizing >> affects this real estate even when a standalone frame >> is involved - which it does not, AFAIK. > > Any such resizing is governed by the setting of `resize-mini-windows' > and whether the echo area can be resized at all. There are various > reasons why the echo area can't be resized - for example, when the > root window has fixed size, when the echo area occupies the only > window on its frame or when the frame is too small. Maybe there are > more. So the standalone frame case is just one among others. > > But this is just my POV of this matter. As should be clear from my > previous remarks in this thread, I apparently do not understand the > use of the echo area for showing tooltips and neither the difference > between echo area and minibuffer. So I'll rather leave this for the > inventor of `tooltip-resize-echo-area' to fix. Eli, I guess that unnamed inventor is you. Perhaps you could take a look at the above and see what you think. commit 9b3ce6252115980802adaa562af575bcd73a2c55 Author: Eli Zaretskii Date: Sat Oct 7 15:04:37 2017 +0300 New defcustom 'tooltip-resize-echo-area' * lisp/tooltip.el (tooltip-resize-echo-area): New defcustom. (tooltip-show-help-non-mode): Use it to avoid truncating the tooltip text in the echo area. (Bug#28724) * etc/NEWS: Mention 'tooltip-resize-echo-area'.