From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56401: "Case folding" should be called "ignore case" Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 12:40:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87r12zze9k.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17686"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 56401@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Phil Sainty Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 12:41:09 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o92Sy-0004Pi-V4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 12:41:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43958 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o92Sx-0005l1-NP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 06:41:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60746) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o92Ss-0005kt-8D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 06:41:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58696) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o92Sr-0001dY-Vk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 06:41:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o92Sr-0003Mv-TG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 06:41:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2022 10:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 56401 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 56401-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B56401.165710402512886 (code B ref 56401); Wed, 06 Jul 2022 10:41:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 56401) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2022 10:40:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52593 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o92SH-0003Ll-1t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 06:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:39523) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o92SE-0003LR-Qi for 56401@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 06:40:24 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-f172.google.com with SMTP id j3so1360737pfb.6 for <56401@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 03:40:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lNeJTxVkkYaS7kuBRaZrKQLsf4PU6hYnPjk+3jlBID4=; b=eA1thg5GuIoOSfSSZ8Ax9zX/wIoHJs0BykDhAkMWeblDtLVFenS3HW1CyixW+4rALk gN67vE5rACypoe3szswd6boc/s1BEXsd4So0rBa68y1rYHi2J935Lbu1muTa2DSw53Qh /GaKLsJ2RIISoMh8wZcbiTl9nY4dao5ETQ48t4Js+UEaDA7SDeOKCQme2jUzfLGqIvZM J2MfYXiApxIXzn3kjiChbFaQzYGQ7JiKeRq2Q2y0LghiJ2WtFvb7rGhNVvdQgOwfPkkI d3VbmwcTNUNYv3QVLnv8xyZf3/D1qYutC7T4egKmP5LjqjHqChJuUdKZbDZ4SVcg6Sjq CG/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora8EqJreRTioNGGamnJ+iA5QBUz9HKNvacP2DTlMAHBfuQWD2xzJ 5puQH+f/zH5p15TFSHTTD1lZbTf7cSwk8HzUQc0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1svMDYiTuvay7HxsCeUx4fy90/RZnGWXbvAtAyuZ8c9ZcNQ/Yq3HKH1ePIuH0mwQc0HlbirQeGOjE/B7eaYz+8= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8e17:0:b0:528:9f8d:ad38 with SMTP id c23-20020aa78e17000000b005289f8dad38mr5611321pfr.4.1657104016930; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 03:40:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:236212 Archived-At: Phil Sainty writes: > I agree that "fold" isn't intuitive to newcomers, but I also think > it's good to try to limit the number of different terms used to > express a concept. Agreed, though I would add that it isn't intuitive to old users either (case in point: me). So let's start moving in the right direction.