From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19822: url-retrieve: allow to fail when no document is associated with the URI Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 15:44:15 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87o8z2l4hs.fsf@gnus.org> <835zladzbx.fsf@gnu.org> <87wodqgs0z.fsf@gnus.org> <83tv8uchxf.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7aldf0d.fsf@gnus.org> <83imp8a8o0.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="109285"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 19822@debbugs.gnu.org, Ivan Shmakov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 01 15:46:04 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFITb-000SIM-Re for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:46:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42338 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFITa-0007ah-7H for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59895) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFISd-0006yC-30 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:45:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFISc-0000iL-5o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52322) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFISc-0000i9-2I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFISc-0001Rq-07 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:45:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19822 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 19822-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19822.15699374755515 (code B ref 19822); Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:45:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 13:44:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32910 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFISA-0001Qt-K2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:44:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-f175.google.com ([209.85.210.175]:41890) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIS8-0001Qg-VM for 19822@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-f175.google.com with SMTP id q7so8027282pfh.8 for <19822@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 06:44:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0/yiT65eDJ41zJdwqziNWrLmV/ACZPGMJv+K7yjMAlU=; b=IfcziIk4M3UMq50II0F+kawZI6iHXfAz+8qlK6c1dKCR3MVgFuhowLsn6VR2F9rcm+ kOtg/hZeT5JgLuuLTCuh7U3mdRGW7L6K0dXyadLag1j8kfznFpSbXp6PodXcF4IUAqo3 WZY2l2Sze5PZvU2MARF1cCUARNXA3ZBHBybeDF5rsEL2rPSgpq+nRQ+wbCb65S0JflMv q994q+sqT1Q5ZLo3jB2US6rXo8mJGtqpIHE3u64HZ7lEMGGRDFeHyl7DNBpDntftdAdh pG8DVv2pj7j+7G1rGRvjalUm1AiNRAQ3Q7vZu70/GuKuqO5X1Tdm5X9i66PcoJQjG98E ebPw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXB5UD9wqQLtIIeAnxpVUhz+fPZAO2ZK5d2yqpxxekcR5dbrQZg y+1afXAioct/ZPR6rhvqsTrYJr/9kxq5lRgl6XQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw8UGlWT7LOYY61meSVivzgi+s3yMw612VwC5iL3dCcPYFTdNoQChkrT44XV7CXgby6PFCDb10LuRCmUrN1KNw= X-Received: by 2002:a63:720f:: with SMTP id n15mr28903745pgc.198.1569937467082; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 06:44:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83imp8a8o0.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:168001 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > I don't feel very strongly about this, but I'm curious: Why don't you > > want to obsolete at least some of them? I think they add user > > confusion and are just not very helpful. > > How would obsoleting them help avoid that confusion? I think in at least two ways: 1. Obsoleting is a fairly strong sign that this is code that it's probably better to avoid. 2. AFAIU, the point of obsoleting a file is to eventually remove it. If it doesn't exist, it can't confuse anyone. Best regards, Stefan Kangas