From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17567: 24.4.50; doc string of `define-derived-mode' Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:01:45 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8e27e542-96e8-4342-a761-8c066fe3d307@default> <83o88gpnpt.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21891"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 17567@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 25 20:10:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mUC7v-0005Tp-6k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 20:10:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38232 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUC7t-00023x-WF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:10:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40316) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUBzu-00083o-OD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51337) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUBzu-0005i9-ES for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUBzu-00082v-Cn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:02:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 18:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17567 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 17567-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17567.163259291330892 (code B ref 17567); Sat, 25 Sep 2021 18:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17567) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2021 18:01:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34646 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUBzk-00082B-Pi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-f174.google.com ([209.85.215.174]:41848) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUBzj-00081r-Id for 17567@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 14:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-f174.google.com with SMTP id k24so13262127pgh.8 for <17567@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:01:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=n3C7dU4NIDXFvCrYYn93xka3J1vLIboSf3cHm35D+jQ=; b=xCIPH7GpzuNWG0XIxlv2SMraT1WMeY1+BHgPUfHjhOf0w/C0ZLvHPcjW8n6RAQskrq bfaM+TWElXtWgL4HonqiBj6iTsxSHH+60ghZKaCLvBZ2z/xjg5PihySf3G2BsZrrJFRc 0JakN8tEY+O6qAIFCnXaHhC2xsobaVxs4pjecUVFd/OdeaugSvEKNf1o18GYlKi8a6bd xevuTlzjhcZW3HQjCV6/O5L3GWwNuqfWMbo+ah5/Sjunw73TjCrmsg0DeKOfyAr0GNdg /TuCD6sZfpl4stuatp1cqohWCRVlleZUQSufW81wFaphG5OHK+EDAN3rhd4hS7ZoXDPD FZAQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530yi+N8nYWn6MQaPoDoSpUfy8V3pH56JxTMM3l+Jxm9dlZqSDRE 3Q+V2fawZWIuDIuOVquQmRvioT9hn2VxfBJ1VEk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzjNdTnXzWfT3Ew6DbmdJ3Uagd1F/psuBpHdJnGzj8iSEzXkUTN+62QhKeHK2uiwWIf2veniPLGzH+CJkz/I4Q= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:1586:b0:447:b30c:4a65 with SMTP id u6-20020a056a00158600b00447b30c4a65mr15345634pfk.0.1632592905684; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:01:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83o88gpnpt.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215492 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I have now fixed this on (commit e4c9081d46). This change will be a >> part of the upcoming Emacs 28.1. > > Thanks, but IMO talking about "unquoted symbols" makes this text > confusing. Why did you need to say that? My suggestion is to remove > those sentences, they aren't needed. Oh, I thought it made it more clear. As a user of this function, I basically just want to know if I need to put: :syntax-table foo-syntax-table or :syntax-table 'foo-syntax-table I'm fine with saying nothing, for the simple fact that these features aren't used that much, and it's easy to just try both variants to see which work. But I think it would be better to say something if we can come up with something clear.