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Fri, 17 Sep 2021 13:57:33 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87zgsbtaqr.fsf@gnus.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:214586 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >>> I guess, the key, M-x. The refcard assumes that people know what it >>> (meta) is. It would probably good to explain it. >> >> Right, okay. If that's it, I agree that it should probably be added. >> >> If we do that, we might as well explain that "C-" stands for "Ctrl" and >> "S-" stands for "Shift" while we're at it. (If there's enough space.) > > I don't think the refcard is the place to explain these keys -- the > refcard is for quick lookup when you know the basics. > > The tutorial explains all this stuff, and that's the correct place, so > I'm closing this bug report. I took a look at the refcards, and it is pretty full of stuff already. One thing caught my eye, namely this information: Starting Emacs To enter GNU Emacs 28, just type its name: emacs This seems useless, for two reasons: A) The overwhelming majority of users will click an icon to start Emacs. B) Any other users will already know to type "emacs". This leaves me wondering if putting a brief explanation of our strange key conventions on there isn't a better use of space.