From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15335: emacs -Q usability Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:44:42 -0700 Message-ID: References: <52302EEA.6090805@easy-emacs.de> <87sgk6gvfg.fsf@marxist.se> <835zh2t5aq.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33911"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 15335@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 13 00:55:47 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k5zet-0008hk-Kc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:44:43 -0700 In-Reply-To: <835zh2t5aq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 23 Jan 2020 20:07:41 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:184897 Archived-At: tags 15335 + wontfix close 15335 thanks Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stefan Kangas >> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:21:39 +0100 >> Cc: 15335@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Andreas R=C3=B6hler writes: >> >> > Emacs -Q opening with scratch buffer is a mistake in most cases. >> > >> > Please make Emacs star as general purpose Editor, preferably with an e= mpty buffer, >> > in text- or fundamental mode, where use may see it's input, being offe= red to save it etc. >> > >> > See also >> > >> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18734848/choosing-an-all-purpose-ed= itor/18735853 >> >> Do new users generally run "emacs -Q" though? I would have assumed >> that they either just run "emacs" (probably from a menu somewhere), or >> "emacs ". > > I think this horse has been beaten ad nauseam, and every time we > discussed it, we decided to keep the current behavior. It's time to > put this to rest, IMO. OK, since there has been no further comments within 28 weeks, I'm closing this bug as wontfix. Best regards, Stefan Kangas