From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46472: Make lisp/mail/uce.el obsolete Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 11:14:13 -0600 Message-ID: References: <83im6we6v8.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtw8cbku.fsf@gnu.org> <1br1ku3eji.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83sg5azkr3.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14953"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 46472@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 06 18:15:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lIaWG-0003lt-0g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 18:15:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59842 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIaWE-0005ha-Fa for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:15:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46792) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIaW6-0005hN-Lw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54869) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIaW6-0003ZX-DD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIaW6-0000g6-7S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:15:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2021 17:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46472 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46472-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46472.16150508622542 (code B ref 46472); Sat, 06 Mar 2021 17:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46472) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2021 17:14:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38182 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIaVR-0000eu-NJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:14:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:46867) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIaVQ-0000ei-69 for 46472@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 12:14:20 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-f41.google.com with SMTP id q6-20020a17090a4306b02900c42a012202so869831pjg.5 for <46472@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 09:14:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=X/GK9WjvqzOMjfyyM/iPgNu045M4nxmF0Pk3KWjREfM=; b=SSj0sCoEqtdnHRLjfqxL1Ibfk/N3aB82BxyLhf5kBIU00v1rq4+JT2hwtn3BR/wsq1 6rHCkGaSshqwXrli+q0DRjsTpFtokOA4xH++iXfqT4x6cHCrEvDys0x2I5W77jiHsrcm slZ3xF9KCCgSo2pEYEvOrjOxzdLYfZGvmON/F42Xcb1Ma5EPfKvpM41VCq4KcRG/ic73 gWvDzbrlOc+P71Dv1AO79+UtmtlP8/m9gOJF62p4jUcsRdYhowKAIwt6nguP9bqPZnmo Vu1ypXmZP6uYUlFkVkd3MPbChEgi7Rm6r5TJQZtHuWMv8lhEbF7sZNDFk0SKSbtuttv2 MgHw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532N3lii7jdBu1eVotDyBg7q/GhX76jvpXI9eQBwyHynbhtyY5b5 wgjUk72kN335DW++2DUU0rEVE0y0Xs4N1j8YKs88uF0izNs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzTTqsi1s49nFoT98DeKpftztNNhLeulYOCufe7IsPfXU71mVRbVVT1LslaBvGUrvsU6lwRquvwea/xJj5hPSo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:c249:: with SMTP id d9mr16514491pjx.104.1615050854097; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 09:14:14 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 6 Mar 2021 11:14:13 -0600 In-Reply-To: <83sg5azkr3.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:201645 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I don't see how our views on what is and isn't appropriate response to > spam should be mandatory for the few users who may disagree. Moving this to obsolete/ does not make it mandatory for anyone to do anything. It is not within our power to do that; one of the freedoms granted by the GPL is to run the program for any purpose. > This is free software, users are free to do whatever they want with > it. I can't see what this has to do with the principles of Free Software. AFAIK, nowhere in the GPL, the GNU Manifesto etc. does it say that it is contrary to the spirit of free software to make useless features obsolete. > Is there any other, more modern method we support to respond to spam? Yes, I listed some of them in my previous reply. Not that I understand why this is pertinent, as we have already established that doing that is useless and/or harmful.