From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26299: 24.5; Use of =?UTF-8?Q?`=E2=80=A6'?= in Info Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 05:21:28 +0200 Message-ID: References: <70f7b182-ca55-499c-8afe-6bd4aef370a1@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="6134"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 26299@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 29 05:22:18 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPmr-0001S6-Io for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 05:22:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36342 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPmp-0001CF-O9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:22:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33716) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPme-0001Bx-8k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:22:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPmd-0002O8-2r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:22:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43013) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPmc-0002ME-OH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPmc-0004WF-Il for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <70f7b182-ca55-499c-8afe-6bd4aef370a1@default> Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 03:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26299 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 26299-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26299.156972731017351 (code B ref 26299); Sun, 29 Sep 2019 03:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26299) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2019 03:21:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51834 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPmP-0004Vn-RZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:21:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-f170.google.com ([209.85.215.170]:35317) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEPmL-0004VI-0x for 26299@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:21:46 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-f170.google.com with SMTP id a24so5465123pgj.2 for <26299@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 20:21:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IRTd9Fc462XaErZNEdl0n1pEkFQARd0dgy3LGU+MFGc=; b=oYab5MzT9Vhgv8Ez17zEHJNbDxRg1T1Q2doudTXHWjuerwfmvodx9EtKy45QHEll0M tWGHkpXW/iKzh1PtKYIuDlYU9CHgMbLU7S0QQotW+2XO8lhakcrCOtrDtk0MoDdhlAl0 QENfpaieivD4QW+UE3wBO39t/JddRCGn20vVSR8K3rWdSEuCKE4Hx3o/uA78ITvbSoyE bXF8NRY4QlU+m7YrdpLk1bux+hwpIuu4UrnXv9yvFHXxUep4sLvgtqtmp/AoPXmmgf/E ubO3AiQfEeYamxu0L0jwJj+lryzDTkFVDkRS6xFP5+m8QuOoY5hGn3bZKC74zo+IStKB l5+A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW6LXhgaScBKvhejV/vbUeDxcabWsFqqGP7whxCENcXud1zsOWf CZt0m5f5d/tz7UlQ7ciOhBWUpPB9I/Jyk+qBkC0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwNFD/C6sm9FTK7sdfI064jay6LgpBmq/DxY7CobdBkMlZpcZqTtRHqksqGqoyJA/qljnxvINhb/PLTFW4xBUo= X-Received: by 2002:a62:e917:: with SMTP id j23mr13962368pfh.50.1569727299325; Sat, 28 Sep 2019 20:21:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:167578 Archived-At: tags 26299 + notabug close 26299 quit Drew Adams writes: >> > Maybe Emacs needs to work around the problem (if it can't be >> > fixed). Maybe if Emacs uses `. . .' instead of `...' that >> > will stop Texinfo from messing with it. >> > >> > (Why would Texinfo have a blanket treatment of ... as =E2=80=A6? >> > That makes no sense at all. What if the occurrence of ... >> > is part of code, and NEEDS to be 3 period chars?) >> >> Emacs' .texi files use @dots{} in these cases, as (strongly) >> recommended by the texinfo manual: >> >> An ellipsis (a sequence of dots) would be spaced wrong when typeset = as >> a string of periods, so a special command is used in Texinfo: use th= e >> @dots{} command to generate a normal ellipsis, which is three dots i= n >> a row, appropriately spaced =E2=80=A6 like so. To emphasize: do not = simply >> write three periods in the input file; that would work for the Info >> file output, but would produce the wrong amount of space between the >> periods in the printed manual. >> >> I found this thread [1] requesting plain "..." for @dots{} in makeinfo >> output; there seemed to be no opposition, but I guess it didn't >> happen. Perhaps try pinging bug-texinfo@gnu.org? > > Thanks for checking on this, Noam. I will leave it to Emacs > maintainers to decide whether to ping bug-texinfo. I reported > the complaint as one Emacs user. Dunno what Emacs Dev will > decide is the desired behavior. I know what I prefer. Info displays three dots ("...") rather than ellipsis in the manual on my system, which has texinfo 6.5.0. So it would seem like texinfo has reverted this change? In any case, this is not an Emacs bug, so I'm closing this as notabug. Best regards, Stefan Kangas