From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50731: `progress-reporter-update' docstring and `backward-sexp' interaction Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:12:51 -0700 Message-ID: References: <83k0j9vz63.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18744"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 50731@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 23 00:13:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mTAUL-0004fx-6v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2021 00:13:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60132 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mTAUJ-00023O-TW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 18:13:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35816) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mTAUB-00021h-1T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 18:13:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mTAUA-0001QM-Pn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 18:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mTAUA-00064u-LP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 18:13:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 22:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50731 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 50731-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50731.163234878123352 (code B ref 50731); Wed, 22 Sep 2021 22:13:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2021 22:13:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52052 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mTAU9-00064X-GM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 18:13:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-io1-f46.google.com ([209.85.166.46]:46866) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mTAU5-00064A-LJ for 50731@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 18:13:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-io1-f46.google.com with SMTP id d18so5410377iof.13 for <50731@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:12:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5IP+cSmfSGHTv12z4xFC4nPjVIkgup/HKJJHni3c3gY=; b=fSkAC5mUdjso4/ceBPqzWtzB2rv8MkmXIdk2lek19JLDwsKcJwzSUrLvkKeMialByS xFRHC4LZkmnlQilPpdkqTIEF0ajch8AQrRMBT7YR27RvSIjD03po/lDrwUtckNSFyyKi K7tNk3sznqQf2Zgsv2Bd1jk2OO0fVtl2/xIZLhiTRZRYKGr5pGK6BC70V82O+pEuH/mu eRMcqND/nukrMMzN3IR3Bj1uXrJIr1HNIGVanMNiRf16+tPeYhEAAdBkGDAxbzTMK5yF rG7X0+H5WisDUZHF3NQEiTFobREIVdcxJk+7/oe1tjYK+nL+q5FkLjSjIdk7Dcb2fbyc MSEg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533eBJU4BgGuA1mSEUm+dMHWe7pDyYW1aBatcgUKulV1TYaHBxru YRkWn5ApeeJaK11oMESyOccm7IfWJLTiC90CLEs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwqSODGqjwpiVL2YVz3qSze3yU7V95SQB/Uf84SQsM/YrovGTkeqFg7tKa4auXzL2ssUWJ/M6RisHE0IoJTODQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:1581:: with SMTP id e1mr1107679iow.49.1632348772179; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:12:51 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83k0j9vz63.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215148 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> A) We should support the above convention of using three dashes in >> `backward-sexp'. (This is the rough ASCII equivalent of an em dash.) >> >> B) We should just not use the above convention in >> `progress-reporter-update'. > > None of the above? I guess I don't yet understand the root cause for > the problem. I guess I have mixed up two different things above. >From my point of view, the first thing to do is to decide is if this `backward-sexp' behavior is a bug or not. So this comes down to if we think that "---" should be treated as a delimiter, just as " - " is, in the context of ELisp docstrings. I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I did find the current behavior somewhat surprising when I saw it. On the other hand, even if this is a bug, it might very well not be worth fixing as the "---" delimiter is not very commonly used.