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Tue, 25 Aug 2020 17:36:16 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87r1ruvab4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:186383 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > The message text changes not often. But the symbol approach is much worse > because it takes the freedom from users - in case of symbols the developers > decide whether to allow the users to inhibit messages or not. When developers > allow to inhibit some messages by adding a new symbol to the message function, > then it takes many years until the users can start using new symbols to > inhibit messages after the next release. I think you convinced me, thanks. I still think people will shoot themselves in the foot, but OTOH we are hardly strangers to that. Let's hear what others have to say.