From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19822: url-retrieve: allow to fail when no document is associated with the URI Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 17:13:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87o8z2l4hs.fsf@gnus.org> <835zladzbx.fsf@gnu.org> <87wodqgs0z.fsf@gnus.org> <83tv8uchxf.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7aldf0d.fsf@gnus.org> <83imp8a8o0.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftkca58b.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="234135"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 19822@debbugs.gnu.org, Ivan Shmakov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 01 17:14:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFJqu-000ylw-Lo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 17:14:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43286 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFJqt-0003mF-IE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:14:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44820) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFJql-0003lj-5u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:14:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFJqk-0007XN-79 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:14:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53797) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFJqk-0007XA-3e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:14:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFJqj-0003p7-V7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:14:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19822 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 19822-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19822.156994283414676 (code B ref 19822); Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 15:13:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34385 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFJqc-0003oe-3T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:13:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-f181.google.com ([209.85.214.181]:34840) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFJqa-0003oS-GJ for 19822@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:13:52 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-f181.google.com with SMTP id y10so5627660plp.2 for <19822@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lVU/JUDQBtYx1Xh5BSgzor60h8VZuKvOPZ5laXFyj7Y=; b=a9Q95ic5dUVIs98eDo2YwSHM6VOwCFfFnCYgyr5H/bPJaMqs/fekGComonG6xphELv WEyNnwI+1s/UXNslNA8NY55erkBPHCwuZakoRLkrefIQ0zWHU4PXNTvlmRR5n4cATC6A 75bqgVIGPbfyTlFZf4kHhccaRa3gU8orR+ACiOSWLRe2r6lTNMOFtZCYVnZnhCK6CEsv j9ZtYxtjzCDBdc/nlsFCpAX1sUyyWjM8sRya32UAixrqi4z/HYoj3W7iRq2SLJCYmMqq 1L+Z3IRQE0d/rZzV5n7aZiFGq2RKg3dG1K5l33aNa7sUmtxh8gjaC4vdizQgXgsSlTuX Jh5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUJDJi1zX7lokJwRn7O32kG+JUgw6dbdZdON9M2o7FASyrYE8ji z1UtcZo16E0fKUig0Y4BQqulscaldZhjepaI1Zo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwC84megkf1tlj0yukuwM0zDKPEBhpOCfA0jp8HjRGln14IBNiHONalQdHLlBKBE0cwU2KhGyO/gPEiNk8QXgc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:326:: with SMTP id 35mr27235698pld.128.1569942826538; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 08:13:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83ftkca58b.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:168023 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I understand how removing will end the confusion. What I don't quite > understand is how obsoleting will help avoiding the confusion. I > think the obsolete messages just add to the confusion, not take away. I see your point. > Lars suggested to let this stuff become fallback, which means users > will see the confusing stuff much less frequently. That made sense to > me. Yes, I agree. However, I did provide a patch to obsolete the Netscape code, as a special case. Please let me know if that patch should be installed or not -- either way is fine with me. Once we have a decision on that, I think we should close this particular bug as wontfix. Perhaps we should also look over to see if there are any other bug reports which deserve closing too, since any efforts are probably better spent improving the with-fetched-url branch. Best regards, Stefan Kangas