From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24897: 24.5; doc for `M' in Dired Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 00:38:21 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="247198"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 24897@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 14 00:49:56 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iJmgV-0012AK-HF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 00:49:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43430 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iJmgU-0006qa-DO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 18:49:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iJmW2-0004xp-0m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 18:39:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iJmVz-00078b-So for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 18:39:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:56693) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iJmVy-00078E-EZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 18:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iJmVy-0000W5-9L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 18:39:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2019 22:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24897 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 24897-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24897.15710063201946 (code B ref 24897); Sun, 13 Oct 2019 22:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24897) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Oct 2019 22:38:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37280 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iJmVb-0000VK-QO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 18:38:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-f193.google.com ([209.85.214.193]:38556) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iJmVa-0000V5-Nc for 24897@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 18:38:39 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-f193.google.com with SMTP id w8so7137454plq.5 for <24897@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 15:38:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2I+dDgAKty+OjyCuBOzWmmS07vch8cyUGMCZafpsDW4=; b=MBgRUYEz272/sTv6ENxjq+g3F2XeDL4qN/36FPysG4s3A2QOsHEds7cQ1FSKw6KaYX Jg7F7m1/IttSCilLkC2H1GvqF/1OfYWZttXaJfsACM63hQVBXXER/6vnr7hS7BBYfbyd 6cPmSbF+8lSiJx0GDtbfxRWONUcPDDU15c9NSuAANtu8O0sr+K5M4hmK8/nTqLkJfgEz e3KBvG7hJYtJ250kTGtTGmTrTehiGhY30FazY1yakpX4gcBNCCOBhNQhggpEzhKlLAvm vHFmZ5liYa2a06+4sgRgD0IDNFaEV7uiDsGbrDqN645VAe+WjjvBRbIAAGD6Am5XrpGO pqCw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUVtCS/CIzh4iTqVL0w23+4Xp+Qc4+047mdZtslu0MdqwDeqUJR zWZ4LJMi5LZ3sThd9CbZzh/R5IRaQioVJyE14rQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzhD23AskrPHPdu+Hfy8ySWqIeNcgm3KupS3qnrCUOa2yjbe9+dpkJMixpzEXIYL5diz3DFo8tc8ZkQHfX3SP4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:6b88:: with SMTP id p8mr25808528plk.251.1571006313065; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 15:38:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:169166 Archived-At: Thanks for your comments Drew. I think the patch I sent separately fixes your comments, but see also below. Drew Adams writes: > 2. The main point of the request is to ask that the > doc for `M' say something about the permissions, that > it _not_ just point to a `man' page (which typically > won't be available for MS Windows users anyway). [...] > It's good for the doc to _also_ mention the `chmod' > command and its `man' page, but this bug report asks > that the `M' doc itself provide at least a minimum of > help about this - the possible user inputs and their > effects. Are you suggesting that we fully document how both symbolic and octal modes work on Unix-like systems here? If so, I think it's outside the scope of this doc string. Linking to separate documentation seems more sensible, and the new patch I suggested does that. See also: https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/File-permissions.html Best regards, Stefan Kangas