From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51051: Restore longlines.el to non-obsolete status Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 19:16:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9ae936c82a87607abd814ae6cd7ef95b@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <87pmsiecfu.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25920"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Phil Sainty , Glenn Morris , Stefan Monnier , 51051@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 07 01:17:18 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mYGA1-0006aE-RH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 01:17:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44696 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYGA0-0003Xi-3l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 19:17:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYG9n-0003XF-5u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 19:17:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34160) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYG9m-0006MY-U4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 19:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mYG9m-0002Ep-Dj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 19:17:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2021 23:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51051 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 51051-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51051.16335621726183 (code B ref 51051); Wed, 06 Oct 2021 23:17:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51051) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2021 23:16:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45704 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mYG8x-0001ad-5V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 19:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-f181.google.com ([209.85.210.181]:44684) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mYG8s-0001R6-Hi for 51051@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 19:16:10 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-f181.google.com with SMTP id 145so3663936pfz.11 for <51051@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:16:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4M//PYtkK/LMQzD2mIG8PMA8CHPyALPaupWeCwObBUA=; b=vG+cddSuaxnnoy76k1pFJKWSFF/GY6rPbx55b9uL0rUmhNzCcBtB8j5jlwj1CVfsRG qWgrq5FTdtk1s/mnGmYlU26q/O9E3CZB+/9gXsNycZy2JTmjrszA6ajKRq1GOMHox4Zl IiIWeYXZx+PUBizcvwaV0uDV3Jnc53msaQrV7ZWLE6OZwOnh3Li8TIi1ZrkKf6iZ49cf sGVYfDR72tNZl3IHSLkfuYfESHVLj/ZTKWbh/Ec6VvtNSVqU8bHXzxYxk8r9MRmBVafD EWPNh14cHF6HVGrI6aPWzykK0kICvj/r7PIjkYRoNfQ6D5hMeCBh5RMBgON/VLr8KvfV 7jQQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5338FbN+4tQt/+sLCR8Xs2QOewGljPBf5d37xxS0oYQVITU3CLxc UkJCQqVKxaPy0x5RZ4fD6VNqrFFtoZwthAf7xuI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzt0lHlj+4G2YRIWxOxgO9pZrFTeAp4R6AvN+UbJ0zBPq21JcvoUpvPy8ZtTswhIHKCm+SadABVsBluo9qR6KI= X-Received: by 2002:a63:4717:: with SMTP id u23mr633569pga.359.1633562160786; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 19:16:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pmsiecfu.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 06 Oct 2021 11:21:09 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:216599 Archived-At: unarchive 18589 reopen 18589 forcemerge 18589 51051 tags 18589 - notabug thanks Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Phil Sainty writes: > >> As longlines.el is still valuable for reasons unrelated to >> visual-line-mode, I'd like it to be restored to non-obsolete >> status. > > I think that makes sense. Does anybody else object? There was a previous discussion in Bug#18589 (now merged): https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=18589 It seems like Stefan Monnier's take was this: > Recently someone pointed out that using longlines-mode in a buffer that > contain *very* long lines makes it possible to view&edit the buffer > without suffering unbearable performance problems. So maybe in this > sense it's not completely obsolete. And: > I wouldn't mind de-obsoleting it. The last message in Bug#18589 links here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-12/msg00475.html (I'm copying in Stefan and Glenn, in case they have something to add.)