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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,
	Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: 15917@debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Smith <psmith@gnu.org>
Subject: bug#15917: 24.3.50; manual: mention keys reserved for users
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 11:15:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmkevFnH68gyksx-cFOZC_RwufzeG38ikO_oSk0C0_w-RA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <62b06d46-5371-4df7-a3c5-b53f84e728ef@default>

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> >> +Key sequences that consist of @kbd{C-c} followed by a letter (upper or
>> >> +lower case) are ``reserved for users,'' and will never conflict with
>> >> +any properly designed Emacs extension or Emacs itself.
>> >
>> > IMO that last part ("will never conflict")
>> > sounds too automatic or passive.
>>
>> How about "should not conflict"?  Otherwise, please propose an
>> alternative.
>
> Better, yes.  But that could mean that we expect that,
> most of the time, they won't (automatically).

I don't understand the second sentence.  Could you please elaborate?

> Active voice here removes such ambiguity, I think.
>
>   Key sequences that consist of @kbd{C-c} followed by a
>   letter are reserved for users.  Please do not write
>   code to be used by others that binds these keys.

Such advice is already in the elisp manual.  The user manual should
rather advice users which keys are reserved for their use in their Init
file.  So I don't think writing about "code to be used for others" is
suitable here.

> (Why mention "upper or lower"? Why put "reserved for users"
> in quotes?)

We can probably remove that, yes.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-29 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-18  3:36 bug#15917: 24.3.50; manual: mention keys reserved for users Michael Heerdegen
2013-11-18  4:36 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-18  7:16   ` Josh
2013-11-18  9:16     ` Andreas Röhler
2020-10-28  7:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-28  8:05   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-29 10:07     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-10-29 15:22       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-29 15:33         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-30 11:47           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 11:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 11:55               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 12:09                 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-01 11:52                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-29 16:59         ` Drew Adams
2020-10-29 17:22           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-29 17:58             ` Drew Adams
2020-10-29 18:15               ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2020-10-29 18:28                 ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30  1:16                   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-30 19:29                     ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30 20:15                       ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30 20:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-10-30 20:50                           ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30 21:03                             ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-10-30 21:24                               ` Drew Adams

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