From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#42323: [External] : Re: bug#42323: 26.3; Doc string of `seq-map' Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 09:28:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87ft4f3xll.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39003"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "42323@debbugs.gnu.org" <42323@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Drew Adams , Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 25 18:29:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mUAY3-0009xT-GM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 18:29:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56294 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUAY1-0005wR-EK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 12:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56126) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUAXv-0005vo-0d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 12:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUAXu-0002B4-MQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 12:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUAXu-0003VT-B6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 12:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 16:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 42323 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 42323-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B42323.163258730013400 (code B ref 42323); Sat, 25 Sep 2021 16:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 42323) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2021 16:28:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34507 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUAXE-0003U4-71 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 12:28:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-f177.google.com ([209.85.214.177]:45891) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mUAXC-0003Tq-Iv for 42323@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 12:28:18 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-f177.google.com with SMTP id n2so8637943plk.12 for <42323@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 09:28:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ef4zlbXKfdeHCSme7k2qMeAAvd4QwGzlGl3taMBrw5M=; b=ZhgYVpooljEPbNYhZbHY1S7W8MCY5gWEcifVvyZ7GGsuv1kGQ4XpemD2InQPJl6cU/ 5rR+Y3I2SrmoufMu9wGnkTvLCYzviibkEXXJUFAz5EU/MmXLQZTongp6DOgqAKwH0jaf AMa/bNDkf4e/D0I9pZsZi7GsUnbJ3mtjTREYQyAsT2RSQgR6XWgKOyCEAERblMZTcwyL 65C80ow0knQ0X2xbPe6tSQiARd1OSQul8ThxFVigUxiHFDdJJpwwOqZX+uvmRfm7/qnD Ku9iYngFFdIBl4daCnuO8sO+W0h6W5CfmmCYCSBb66loyPPQ9Hh6pFMCevh+ZWdcCR4I G5+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533laYkNUpDCnMrWJwW8T2xQ/mCZx7D2KO8PUHC9yVUyjcDlTfh1 DtGIs3CfYcTq7/b+jP7z7AepcwgllhWoEkjnix0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxDqvM+d8jhzjYnOUljWgyM31K+1n89bci2L+YvyiLcPCQYUSd7y68omIsGRSZ7CEaxcg3KyLJcIddygB0Szkk= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:5583:: with SMTP id c3mr8825207pji.133.1632587292682; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 09:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 25 Sep 2021 09:28:12 -0700 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215472 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > I don't see how what you show fixes the bug in any > sense at all. If the bug can't be fixed now, or no > one has the energy or motivation to fix it now, that > doesn't change the fact that the bug exists. > > It's not fixed, IMO. Your options, as I see it, are > (1) close as "won't fix" or (2) leave it open, in > hopes that someone, at some time, will find the will > and a way to fix it, and will do so. > > My preference is almost always for #2. Closing bugs > just to close bugs doesn't improve anything (IMO). > But it's your call, not mine. I just don't agree > that the bug is fixed (based on what you showed), at > all. We can have thousands of bug reports about issues that are basically there because that what the help screen fundamentally looks like and how it works. Or we can have a small number of bug reports that concretely proposes how to improve the things that cause problems in the first place. I prefer the latter, and therefore I prefer this bug report closed. In this case, IMO some kind of folding or sections is what is needed. Or there is some other general feature that we need. IOW, this needs a general solution, not N bug reports about all cases where the lack of such a general solution cause issues.