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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: "Miguel V. S. Frasson" <mvsfrasson@gmail.com>
Cc: 34214@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#34214: 25.3; minibuffer function help in lisp modes changes match-data
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 07:30:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmkLx4jmAGwGJFzrM3o29Daoi4QGynY2ky1=148oqS4wEA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAARdmY3isBNbnM=sbvATaMfT7WwA5eS3aaAcB5FNOzUwJ4v36A@mail.gmail.com>

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"Miguel V. S. Frasson" <mvsfrasson@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi.
>
> The "documented" behavior is in Elisp Reference, but not in doc-strings of
> functions that rely on match data. So they are not so easily spotted by
> non-experienced users.
>
> This bug teached me a lesson, but it took me a lot of time to realize how
> volatile match-data is, changed even by a helper mode like eldoc.
>
> IMO it is so easy to avoid interference into user experience in this case,
> adding convenience, just by saving match data inside eldoc...
>
> Should a helper mode "confuse" non-experienced users because it could rely
> on "documented" behavior? If so, why does Emacs have disabled commands, if
> they are also documented?
>
> Best regards
>
> Miguel

Actually, you may have a point regarding eldoc, if it's clobbering match
data just by moving around the buffer.  I guess it would be nice to
avoid that.

Let's see if anyone else has something to say here.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas





  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-13 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-26 23:42 bug#34214: 25.3; minibuffer function help in lisp modes changes match-data Miguel V. S. Frasson
2019-01-27 13:58 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-13 11:37   ` Stefan Kangas
     [not found]     ` <CAARdmY3isBNbnM=sbvATaMfT7WwA5eS3aaAcB5FNOzUwJ4v36A@mail.gmail.com>
2020-08-13 14:30       ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2020-08-13 17:14     ` Miguel V. S. Frasson
2020-09-18  9:51       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-22 22:10         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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