From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37562: 26.2; Obsolete vt-control and vt100-led Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 01:02:35 +0100 Message-ID: References: <83h84tbpxl.fsf@gnu.org> <87r22kz5bx.fsf@marxist.se> <83bltng3s2.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="15856"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: nicolas.semrau@gmail.com, 37562@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 08 01:03:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iSrk7-000410-O2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 01:03:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48882 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSrk6-00015G-HT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 19:03:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46649) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSrjz-000157-U1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 19:03:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSrjy-00044R-Sr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 19:03:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSrjy-00043z-Oi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 19:03:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSrjy-0007NE-Iq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 19:03:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 00:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37562 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 37562-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37562.157317137428326 (code B ref 37562); Fri, 08 Nov 2019 00:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37562) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2019 00:02:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44149 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSrjp-0007Mo-OD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 19:02:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-f179.google.com ([209.85.214.179]:44505) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iSrjo-0007Ma-12 for 37562@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 19:02:52 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-f179.google.com with SMTP id az9so1900725plb.11 for <37562@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 16:02:51 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6wsByx8c4AW6UHMHk2YfvvcEQO1Bhu4sgCJRDwQx+dU=; b=PtMfdatv+Sb0MHGFK8pDn2AfrXu8+FdzLuLimZkOCPhbi33pX3w+LffrCbu6euXOl4 fQ7qIijUshuC3TNeSYpPHM09wi31XpG1Ar0CvgxG27AZYjVL/oK6qEOoGPk5RuLxRLFm hgw2EiQItq7kCPgQ4r9AnoW8Yx7rt0TgPgzjWuRX0NVDt6T4Hfeb+I61mPSCnCGilZCS 1QcOASAygtGTnvmEGlze10kyiS4MTz4sJNtc9cgRv46iQmOknvxLzmR2q1xDzkwu3rir Ov3qkSEqh/Z6iDhtSiCxt3PufxMOG4vHdi2U3M6ugWG6uNKMfWjD9K1d119DtZWgcu8O 2CQQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX1sih6AfJ4zaM5bmpBXPJBlD7xqSJHOS7qWe9bNtohdNgXt7P5 /dCVXhguh8oRdivrBpB3Gtipbet/7OXp55O9ejY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwGka9U4E1EkE4aoN6SObPQ6ZAIAVzxsdjd1ut2WfuAhKIpvx5Ox55yd7BL1/cezD4VizUIFff9BQCW6nRd3D4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:d152:: with SMTP id t18mr9097877pjw.119.1573171366292; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 16:02:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83bltng3s2.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171132 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Aren't they useful with lisp/term/vtXXX.el, which we didn't yet > > > obsolete? > > > > Is there any reason not to obsolete lisp/term/vtXXX.el as well? > > I think they are still being used, albeit rarely, with emulators of > those old terminals. Would it make sense to mark them as obsolete and if anyone complains to create a new ELPA package for them instead? We could even say in NEWS that, in case anyone is still using this, we would appreciate it if they reported back to emacs-devel or somesuch. (I think I've seen that being done once before, so there is some precedent.) My objective in writing this is to figure out a way forward for the original request/suggestion, but I don't feel very strongly about it. However, if we can't find a reasonable way to do this, or if we don't want to, I think we're better off closing this as wontfix. Thanks in advance. Best regards, Stefan Kangas