From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36525: M-x default when cursor on top of a M-x command in INFO Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 14:24:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87a7dqgd9t.fsf@tcd.ie> <87ftnj5s5s.2.fsf@jidanni.org> <87h87vy4h7.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <87muhnwjjb.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="59213"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , 36525@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 09 14:25:40 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hkpBj-000F9X-Pz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:25:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49540 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hkpBi-00089R-H5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:25:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57719) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hkpBO-00084S-OT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:25:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hkpBD-0008EK-E1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:25:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51613) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hkpB8-00083o-4X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:25:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hkpB7-0004qA-OE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:25:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2019 12:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36525 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36525-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36525.156267505818524 (code B ref 36525); Tue, 09 Jul 2019 12:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36525) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2019 12:24:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60428 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hkpAQ-0004oh-Kq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:24:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-f52.google.com ([209.85.128.52]:55985) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hkpAP-0004oV-8X for 36525@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:24:17 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-f52.google.com with SMTP id a15so2854202wmj.5 for <36525@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 05:24:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pNMg2RTkEUzGo8RFn0uySiKejA4vqRNdx05Wf5ti14Q=; b=IInDzdmVoZiMU+DlY66dIRNCBb3jrMNmIksxJVIgpxOmH201BrC5/jWTt35+Yvq3el dtgeCf/qs+eQ4I/sgAZ0CFtNHvtcTPrNCl9vGZjasHi6t/ClImEHGcoqbyem3HDrY72O 497sDNFUMUtrlxFLH/6Z7ImLosaFVBL50p4zV3uusqb4kdJu0Hg0h9S6iuo20ceBbDjJ ctW3bZgZF1MpuDFLJ/bKacakvfysna6DWHQob1TLygu36kMKxoraYVtocv+fx/rOdeYD xp44Hk/OcXadYrXgmrpySnrslUFTDT5bi80rNSMY7EdVNANmiOpgekCzkKBCSkmAU95V dXfg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVEAMutWVIspCSk0mANG1wCM7RZFK1VxeZaFj2TBQSmWPKkrSj7 bR+MSyNP01iOVxjUoaPxHU4xPT4+I7qx8oXMETM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwD1ssoNfSWM8OLLvp4hLIT+VaJokXkWrXlgBAbZEYbBkf9lIjEsMAyNnL54AWNgUNOSwSiYJUQPFpgbTPlhNY= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:9696:: with SMTP id y144mr22438362wmd.73.1562675051531; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 05:24:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87muhnwjjb.5.fsf@jidanni.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:162452 Archived-At: =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson : > SK> I would guess that the more common use case is that you want to run a > SK> command with another name than the text currently at point. > OK, but these days (I've got ffap enabled) I already have the habit of > moving the cursor off of anything that looks like a URL etc. > > I.e., these days the user should expect "smart suggestions"... with the > price that if he wants a blank area where the suggestion would be, then > he should "take his cursor elsewhere". But that would be more work then > just holding down the DEL key to clean off the suggestion. This is why I don't use ffap.el personally. I don't think it's good to force this behaviour on the user by default. Best regards, Stefan Kangas