From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50926: [External] : bug#50926: Light edits to the Emacs Manual (screen.texi) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 15:29:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22911"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "50926@debbugs.gnu.org" <50926@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 01 15:30:30 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mWIcM-0005Z4-L0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 15:30:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56648 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWIcG-00023q-Hj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:30:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57238) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWIbz-00022T-O9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:30:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43446) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWIbz-0003rq-G7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:30:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWIbz-0003gi-51 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:30:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2021 13:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50926 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 50926-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50926.163309496114100 (code B ref 50926); Fri, 01 Oct 2021 13:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50926) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2021 13:29:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54992 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWIbI-0003fL-KB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:29:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:42976) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWIbG-0003eu-9K for 50926@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 09:29:18 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-f172.google.com with SMTP id l6so6293725plh.9 for <50926@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 06:29:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sMa+zJtFgh9481mk2nkbRIPqoM9ZkNKhXdtr6mkRtNo=; b=qaDpAB7Wyw/ki6a5Ce3bjm/ecg5gO7eoCuyvw+vWoewW9M+bWwOYSBRjZPkAeQDX0D loZHtO6YCrvWdZkgWf3v6+XTfKlL1CM/6p8xSSfsDf86xB0A378rDu30bYAK/JZI3nNq d/fkF3IR6ar5faDJQsOjRiVvyLI66NL/5hr2yikQq6L85h2ShAzPeS8A7voMG7Khx6o8 PoWbaucngyFMm4HBd/2jZ1ImhI2CaNwCl5S00S8wsBP5lsR4AsQaVY8cPS7HKAuWUwWh bznJJzUxLg2iEhk+e4ZjF7rqkPg7Jzy06S552brUjvKA9ty/qKOn4tzkwrtIjMsBWyHz c+3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531NFQA8FpHPmrcvIN7k71lCDycGkzStobAiNbk0RRTg+rA22svK btFysifkCMtkEAwy3pucvAOms21ThpZASXHfZbo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzRvbwKZw2bn4fwLdZOf8ThYtHw30SSrbe5uRruCT3LSt6AK3zxSgimKloOI41dGc0c7OMKU2vH84HxFrE3uY0= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3805:: with SMTP id mq5mr19772869pjb.143.1633094952264; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 06:29:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:216046 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > > Some quick, minor copy-edit suggestions - > > > - Some commands display informative messages in the echo area to tell > > -you what the command has done, > > + Some commands display messages in the echo area to tell > > +you what it has done, > > Some commands...what they have done. Done. > > , such as Text > > -mode, Lisp mode, C mode, and so forth. @xref{Major Modes}. Some > > +mode, Lisp mode, C mode, and so on. @xref{Major Modes}. > > Drop the ", and so *". It's redundant with "such as". Done. > > +@xref{Optional Mode Line}. Finally, you can click > > +on different parts of the mode line > > Drop "on". Done. > > Hovering > > +the mouse pointer above...shows...by clicking > > "Place the mouse pointer on...to show... > by clicking there" > > or > > "Move the mouse pointer to...to show... > by clicking there" Skipped this one, as it goes further than I'd like at this point. Thanks, though. > -command from the menu bar. An arrow on the right edge of a menu item > -means it leads to a subsidiary menu, or @dfn{submenu}. A @samp{...} > +command from the menu bar or a @dfn{submenu}. A @samp{...} > > That's wrong, IMO. The menu-bar has menus, which can > have submenus. The menu-bar doesn't have submenus. So the original text is wrong as well? > + If a command in the menu bar have an ordinary key binding > > "has", not "have" Oops, a very obvious one. Fixed. > - Instead of using the mouse, you can also invoke the first menu bar > -item by pressing @key{F10} (to run the command @code{menu-bar-open}). > + You can invoke the first menu bar > +item with your keyboard by pressing @key{F10} (to run the command > @code{menu-bar-open}). > > "menu-bar", not "menu bar" if used as an > adjective before the noun. Hmm, I'll take your word for it. > But what is meant by "the first menu bar item"? > The menu bar doesn't have items. It has menus. > And what's meant by "first" here? Must have > something to do with invoking (first command > invoked?), but it's not clear to me what this > is trying to say. This is a pre-existing confusion, right? > And you can drop "with your keyboard" here: > > with your keyboard by pressing @key{F10} Good point, but on the other hand it is to contrast with usage with the mouse so I think it's also fine to leave it. > HTH. Feel free to ignore, of course. Much appreciated, thank you.