From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50936: "(emacs) Help" does say how to find external packages Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 16:42:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83mtntdizr.fsf@gnu.org> <83ee94euwe.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12864"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 50936@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 01 16:45:43 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mWJnD-0003AA-Hx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 16:45:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52950 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWJnC-0003Dm-JF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 10:45:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWJkc-0007h9-Dc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 10:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45538) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWJkc-0006XM-5z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 10:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWJkc-0006E4-44 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 10:43:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50936 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 50936-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50936.163309935323890 (code B ref 50936); Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:43:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50936) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2021 14:42:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57084 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWJk9-0006DG-7u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 10:42:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-f46.google.com ([209.85.216.46]:41891) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mWJk6-0006D3-Qz for 50936@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 10:42:31 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-f46.google.com with SMTP id na16-20020a17090b4c1000b0019f5bb661f9so3556402pjb.0 for <50936@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 07:42:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=y6JbiydnWI2QKOWakO3yGBvsI1Ei/qRrmuI20rf3X2c=; b=X585uwyFFnZmBb5Zp4NZ1qMiRH6i3lBvVjFS14CL8AhsgRytdJvD9xSVNWrvMrEwR5 1q1ryxRM95R2sJ2LPASlct+8R9pG+B0D1p5bvIm02H6CTaovxX4Ips9zxIbFN8yLc3MD zn3+XNX3V5nYyjGT2HvrGYgDmO2gDtN0jNiLzBQbNSb2D5IbezHbQr434UMrVNU+Yo2K OJ5I/ZdI4hU9MXqh/YaK+JJnVQ2+xcQ8l7qOpHsvgTAa76vLJakCnqWLfglXdWo/5bdK kAPseLN/DnXVw0KinqrW+Hohv6QoMuB3K9DF++RI9k0HJImq6FitH1e1fP852bhPYK+b LHhg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531/RAl5UG1HqfPogdClACjE4ZNjtSOSO3dTzBH1/oUueHAfGVSp fSyJkDcZ38BMSsKfLNqsNd5OLy7tNVr3CvmLB2g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw534mlZsNnBRDTgMtlcfXtioLEKPLw6D9exTOwgeykfItudP5WswL6p3rkjyBTTvjN0xVxLONdDeFEEqFJj3g= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:5583:: with SMTP id c3mr13365403pji.133.1633099344986; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 07:42:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83ee94euwe.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:216052 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > That's a problem, but there is IMO no way around that as long as Emacs > > doesn't bundle packages like php-mode, haskell-mode, eglot or > > lsp-mode, markdown-mode, etc. > > I don't understand the relevance, please elaborate. As a user, I come to "Help" to learn how to find more information on e.g. "I want indentation for Haskell code", or "how to enable syntax highlighting for Markdown". The answer to many such questions is that you need to look for and install an external package. Users might also just want to explore existing features in Emacs. For that, 'finder' is useful.