From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#66890: 29.1; buffer-size should also accept the buffer's name as string argument Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2023 03:43:26 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8734xp77vl.fsf@posteo.de> <83edh88y2h.fsf@gnu.org> <877cmzzxf5.fsf@posteo.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23504"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 66890@debbugs.gnu.org, Daniel Nagy To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 04 11:44:34 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qzE8n-0005y5-Rg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sat, 04 Nov 2023 03:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sat, 4 Nov 2023 03:43:26 -0700 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:273769 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> Maybe we should just "de-emphasize" the fact that those functions also >>> accept strings, and instead insist that you have to go through >>> `get-buffer` (or `get-buffer-create`). If that sounds vague and you >>> don't know what that would mean concretely, well.. you're not alone :-) >> Perhaps we could recommend against abusing it in `(elisp) Tips'. > > It's not as strong a "de-emphasize" as I was picturing, but yes, > that counts. Feel free to propose other things we could do. I just proposed the first one that came to mind. :-)