From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 09:30:28 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87blabpy54.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf9eo3mq.fsf@gnus.org> <0d7924a2-d09f-e2d0-f0e7-6b5ee3a7a7f2@yandex.ru> <192e82f20f5deb690394@heytings.org> <192e82f20fbb3e50ce0c@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39223"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Alan Third , 1305@debbugs.gnu.org, Michael Welsh Duggan , jasonspiro4@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Dmitry Gutov , Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 21 16:31:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lZDsl-000A6E-EJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 16:31:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59608 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZDsk-0003bm-H9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:31:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51078) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZDsc-0003bO-PG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47808) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZDsc-00085B-Ht for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZDsc-0002z7-Es for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:31:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1305 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1305.161901543611443 (code B ref 1305); Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2021 14:30:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZDsC-0002yV-2I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:30:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-f169.google.com ([209.85.215.169]:40870) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZDsA-0002yG-HQ for 1305@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:30:35 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-f169.google.com with SMTP id b17so30008422pgh.7 for <1305@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 07:30:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=DHtsqPtIAjAYvgKSrFmNWYpUWg9CLf/XSJUJiIrVPSg=; b=WVDAw5rNOj91FS3cEpZNdUWjmhRA+M1PlazrfJbpB4UI6iO8EHj+hQsagjk7aN7/i2 ks8X8tUMcW+xNLQcI2din3gNZXDa9Ji9RafZO5tbje65X9DsuOGcn1bNCnBFZYY/i0U+ Il38hE6km4F8ft/zO/JSFNllM0znGw59+cn0eYEPZ5l1OOu8D6RZJHsdLsinbV0pOQrx iorwMzgyxDWpBVxwZ/1lgCNN5QSBf+aUdDo7gNN5bOIlJx6hwLhAR7QNov6MI2YYZwib Y4UV0hQjUzBRj5qLYb/OGzNVFagvnwq6RgDhhbXaUl+5k6iUbF4j5/QQ4GENw+lk0LiO SkTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53299neiKqQByNCaTqJ4BvVGR8VKD+FwPTvD6e21aGxMQLAkge/+ 1uIUdF1VkriQ+Y2N+85oW0MPeKa7xw5GjdGnP54= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyJOMJN2zPXXw4cSXfuiT/W44CZ8F9LbAbuuVuUunDeWBiQ4K+/LlQEnAneeajW3zpd9JNWiWRjRof/kx6Gi3k= X-Received: by 2002:a63:a16:: with SMTP id 22mr8337811pgk.345.1619015428654; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 07:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 09:30:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: <192e82f20fbb3e50ce0c@heytings.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:204618 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: >> For my money, the Doom idea, to flash the mode line in a different >> color, is the most good looking one. It is also hard to miss, and >> doesn't risk hiding or obscuring the minibuffer. > > IMO having a default bell that changes the the mode-line on every error is > a recipe for disaster. There are too many packages that do all kinds of > stuff with the mode-line. That would just be bugs to be fixed though, right? Most likely in those packages themselves. >> I have used this for a couple of days and find it strictly better than >> both the default behavior on GNU/Linux with inverse video and flashing >> the minibuffer background. >> > > Did you try the patch I sent? Yes, of course. I provided detailed comments in a previous post.