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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: 34214@debbugs.gnu.org, "Miguel V. S. Frasson" <mvsfrasson@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#34214: 25.3; minibuffer function help in lisp modes changes match-data
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 04:37:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkm=BGa7CHhRQ=fm+y-yOrebR21eMmPny6ryynN6RT=t6Gw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAArVCkT1NRa1j6wiZaztP=fcCm31spoXPDR7n9QHaZvTK6rZYQ@mail.gmail.com> (Philipp Stephani's message of "Sun, 27 Jan 2019 14:58:31 +0100")

tags 34214 + notabug
thanks

Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com> writes:

>> Programming an Emacs lisp program that uses match-data, debugging pieces
>> by hand, I realized that managing matchs was a nightmare.  At first I
>> thought that navigation commands like C-a or C-M-f were messing
>> match-data (as one could think they use searching).  It could be.  But
>> for sure, that very handy help line that shows function arguments are
>> messing match data, making difficult to program Emacs lisp.
[...]
>> What I expect:
>>
>> No unnecessary side-effects like change match-data should happen while
>> simply navigating through code.  Lisp modes should protect searches on
>> background with save-match-data, because it makes a nightmare to
>> evaluate code by hand.
>>
>
> Any function is allowed to change the match data, see
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Match-Data.html:
> "Notice that all functions are allowed to overwrite the match data
> unless they're explicitly documented not to do so.".
> In general you almost always want to immediately bind the match
> results to variables, like so:
>
> (when (string-match "f" "foo")
>   (let ((match (match-string 0 "foo")))
>     ...
>     match))
>
> Evaluating the entire 'when' form will then work as intended.

Agreed, I don't think there's a bug here.  This is just how this works,
and is documented to work.

Any other opinions?

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas





  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-13 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-26 23:42 bug#34214: 25.3; minibuffer function help in lisp modes changes match-data Miguel V. S. Frasson
2019-01-27 13:58 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-08-13 11:37   ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
     [not found]     ` <CAARdmY3isBNbnM=sbvATaMfT7WwA5eS3aaAcB5FNOzUwJ4v36A@mail.gmail.com>
2020-08-13 14:30       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-13 17:14     ` Miguel V. S. Frasson
2020-09-18  9:51       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-22 22:10         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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