From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41681: 27.0.91; Remove obsolete reference to the Emacs Lisp List? 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Wed, 12 Aug 2020 18:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 18:12:28 -0700 In-Reply-To: <837dwocj22.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 03 Jun 2020 17:36:53 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:184922 Archived-At: --0000000000007a65f205acb7ff68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" tags 41681 + patch thanks Eli Zaretskii writes: >> C-h C-e shows an info page explaining how to find extra packages. >> >> This page contains a reference to the Emacs Lisp List: >> https://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/sje30/emacs/ell.html >> >> The list has not been updated since 2014 and many links are broken. > > That command shows a section on our FAQ, so the FAQ needs to be fixed. > >> See these 6 broken links among the 7 first entries: >> >> http://www.davep.org/emacs/5x5.el >> http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/comp-e.html >> http://www.geocities.com/mkjunker/stuff.html#emacs >> http://sites.ugcs.caltech.edu/~shulman/pub/Main/Software/abc-mode.el >> http://compbio.uchsc.edu/Hunter/acldoc.el >> >> I simply suggest to remove this link from the Emacs manual and to add >> it to emacswiki, if needed. > > I don't want to trade our documentation for the wiki, because the > latter is not under our control, and the quality of the information > there cannot be guaranteed. Why not simply fix our FAQ to be more > up-to-date? It does seem less than useful these days. How about just removing the reference, like in the attached patch? 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