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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 61925-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer@gmx.de>
Subject: bug#61925: 30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 03:08:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkm=9GhiT0uwoPTdA+ouJ2Qbhd=pgHaLdMMUdEhMopu6+xw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834jr0byz0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 04 Mar 2023 12:19:31 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> tags 61925 notabug
> thanks
>
>> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 00:11:13 +0100
>> From: Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer@gmx.de>
>>
>> The command `normal-mode' does not set file local variables, if a
>> buffer does not have a `buffer-file-name'. This affects *scratch* and
>> buffers created using `with-temp-buffer'.
>>
>> The behavior changed at some time between Emacs version 20.5.2.2 and 20.6.3.
>> See output from various Emacs versions further below.
>>
>> If that was an intentional change, it should be prominently documented
>> to avoid the confusion when examples do not work in a *scratch* buffer.
>
> This was an intentional change, yes.
>
> And AFAICT, it _is_ documented in the ELisp Reference manual:
>
>  -- Command: normal-mode &optional find-file
>      This function establishes the proper major mode and buffer-local
>      variable bindings for the current buffer.  It calls ‘set-auto-mode’
>      (see below).  As of Emacs 26.1, it no longer runs
>      ‘hack-local-variables’, this now being done in ‘run-mode-hooks’ at
>      the initialization of major modes (*note Mode Hooks::).
>
> And the documentation of run-mode-hooks says:
>
>
>  -- Function: run-mode-hooks &rest hookvars
>      Major modes should run their mode hook using this function.  It is
>      similar to ‘run-hooks’ (*note Hooks::), but it also runs
>      ‘change-major-mode-after-body-hook’, ‘hack-local-variables’ (when
>      the buffer is visiting a file) (*note File Local Variables::)  ^^^^
>      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> The user manual indeed didn't mention this caveat; I've now mentioned
> that aspect there (and also in the doc strings of the relevant
> functions).
>
> (The change in Emacs 26 that caused this as a side effect was to fix
> bug#15577 and bug#23407.)
>
>> I would even recommend a warning prompt in normal-mode, when called
>> interactively.
>
> I think such a warning could be an annoyance.

It seems like we're not going to be making any changes here, as this is
the expected behavior.

I'm therefore closing this bug report.





      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-10 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-02 23:11 bug#61925: 30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer) Wolfgang Scherer
2023-03-04 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-05  4:58   ` Wolfgang Scherer
2023-03-05  5:03   ` Wolfgang Scherer
2023-03-06  2:07   ` Wolfgang Scherer
2024-01-10 11:08   ` Stefan Kangas [this message]

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