From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eduardo Ochs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41403: A more user-friendly version of GNU Emacs Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 15:44:46 -0300 Message-ID: References: <1572340523.1158427.1589893725280.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1572340523.1158427.1589893725280@mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28538"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 41403@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andrew Goh Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 17 20:46:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mRIsI-0007Dc-9G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 20:46:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53264 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRIsG-0005AY-MN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Most of these attempts are announced at Sacha's Emacs Weekly News: https://sachachua.com/blog/category/emacs-news/ https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-tangents/ My (own) preferred way to do that is this one: http://angg.twu.net/index.html#eev https://github.com/edrx/eev#introduction In eev people can open a kind of an online version of a Reference Card by typing just M-2 M-j. It opens something that looks like this: http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-emacs-keys-intro.html and it is easy to define new (editable!) help pages. Also, I think that the best way to get help is the IRC channel: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsChannel Cheers, Eduardo Ochs http://angg.twu.net/ On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 11:22, Andrew Goh via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors wrote: > > Hello GNU Emacs team, > > Can you find a more user-friendly way of using GNU Emacs without referring to a two page landscape GNU Emacs Reference Card? I understand that C-h is control-h, but what is M-x for example? > > As for the ELisp language, well, now, concurrency is supported on many languages, could ELisp be updated to support concurrency fully with Lisp threads. > > I was also wondering if you can add language extensions for Ruby and maybe Julia too. > > Regards, > > Andrew Goh S M >