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From: dalanicolai <dalanicolai@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,
	"Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>,
	47368@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#47368: 28.0.50; map-elt returns nil without "deprecated" TESTFN
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 16:32:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACJP=3ktr30cVimmHOR27hoV8WBTF-AsrC5oe=P=sG1jKYJFCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr1k26nzg.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

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Well, as a hobbyist programmer, this makes more sense to me anyway. If
users don't want the behavior of using `equal` then they could just as well
use `alist-get`.

I hope you don't mind if I write down some thoughts (and macro's) I have on
my mind.
Personally, I think it would be great for growing the community, if
emacs-lisp got more approachable (in the direction of python).
I actually got here because, as an exercise, I was trying to implement Norvig's
sudoku solver <https://norvig.com/sudoku.html> in emacs-lisp, which was a
quite frustrating exercise (this is no complaint, but just a fact).
I think it would be great if emacs-lisp could look, and become readable and
usable, more like that (in which map.el and seq.el are doing a very nice
job of course). So that emacs-lisp could actually
become a nice and friendly teaching language, which is equally fun to
script in as in python.

Actually, I got the feeling that it would be nice to have
list-comprehension like syntax also. Therefore, I tried to create some
general `array` and `table` macro's here
<https://github.com/dalanicolai/list-factory/blob/main/list-factory.el>
(which is my first macro exercise ever).
As it is just an exercise it is undocumented, but you can very easily get
the idea from looking at the (commented out) tests at the bottom of that
file. Also, from looking at map.el, I assume I should probably
implement it using cl-defgeneric.

Haha... sorry for the elaborate answer.  You can neglect most of this
message, but maybe someone is interested and shares some of these ideas (or
likes the idea of these macro's). I just couldn't resist to share these
thoughts...

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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-24 22:52 bug#47368: 28.0.50; map-elt returns nil without "deprecated" TESTFN dalanicolai
2021-03-24 23:24 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-25  2:39   ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-03-25 14:48     ` dalanicolai
2021-03-25 15:33     ` bug#47368: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-26 18:47       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-26 20:04         ` Drew Adams
2021-03-26 20:23           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-26 22:40             ` Drew Adams
2021-03-26 22:59               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-26  3:59     ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-03-26  7:38       ` dalanicolai
2021-03-26 13:31       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-26 15:32         ` dalanicolai [this message]
2021-03-26 18:57         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-26 23:18           ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-03-27 20:37           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-26 23:23         ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-03-26 18:58     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-07-21 15:34 ` Adam Porter
2021-07-22  2:15   ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-07-31  2:15     ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-13 14:06       ` Adam Porter
2021-09-14 14:40         ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-14 20:22           ` Basil L. Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-15  0:48             ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-15  9:26               ` Basil L. Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-15 12:39               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-15 21:53                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-15 12:50             ` Basil L. Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-09-15 21:55               ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-21 12:42                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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