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From: yyoncho <yyoncho@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "Sébastien Chapuis" <sebastien@chapu.is>,
	"Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@yandex.ru>,
	31138@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#31138: Native json slower than json.el
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 16:28:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACCVLQUB7Lro13SHOY75B-J4PK0EmitQmedqBp78x+k2jVz=7g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83zhoj8shg.fsf@gnu.org>

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Hi Eli,


> Or maybe this is the limit of what can be done in
> Emacs, since there is, and always will be, overhead due to converting
> C values to Lisp objects.
>

Not necessary, there are libraries (at least in java/rust) which provide a
possibility to pass a generator which can be used to create your data
structures on the fly to avoid intermittent structures. This is something
that should be considered when looking for C json library.


> I don't think I understand how this could help to speed up code,
> please explain.
>
> The issue here is not that the library is some code not written by the
> Emacs project, because we do the same with text generated by Emacs
> Lisp programs.  Bugs can happen in both external libraries and in code
> written by Emacs programmers.
>

I am a bit confused, (maybe I am talking nonsense) but if the input is
already an emacs lisp string doesn't that mean that we should not decode it
since it is already validated? But even if we had to convert it, we can do
it once(e. g. apply decode string on the input string) instead of doing
that for each string in the JSON and eventually yield performance
improvement? For a reference, I have compared the performance of
read-from-string with the json equivalent and it is ~3 times faster(if
memory serves me right).

Thanks,
Ivan

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Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-12 19:13 bug#31138: Native json slower than json.el Sebastien Chapuis
2018-04-13  7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-15 14:40   ` Sebastien Chapuis
2018-04-15 15:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23  1:59       ` Sébastien Chapuis
2019-03-23  8:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23  9:40           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 12:59             ` Sébastien Chapuis
2019-03-23 13:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 13:31                 ` yyoncho
2019-03-23 14:00                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 14:32                     ` yyoncho
2019-03-23 14:55                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 15:27                         ` yyoncho
2019-03-23 16:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                             ` <CACCVLQW=_YngoTwXU+1BDvVVy5jwxSmDFUQJBvs8=PrP=fn=aw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-03-23 18:50                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 20:23                                 ` yyoncho
2019-03-23 20:54                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 21:04                                     ` yyoncho
2019-03-24  3:32                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24  9:35                                         ` yyoncho
2019-03-24 11:20                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 11:37                                             ` yyoncho
2019-03-24 15:15                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 18:24                                                 ` yyoncho
2019-03-24 18:28                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 20:57                                                     ` yyoncho
2019-03-25  3:32                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25  5:44                                                         ` yyoncho
2019-03-25 16:42                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25 18:20                                                             ` yyoncho
2019-03-25 18:25                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25 19:16                                                                 ` yyoncho
2019-03-25 20:05                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25 21:34                                                                     ` yyoncho
2019-03-25 23:04                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-26  3:51                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-26 16:14                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-26 17:45                                                                         ` yyoncho
2019-03-26 18:11                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-26 18:15                                                                             ` yyoncho
2019-04-16  1:36                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-16  2:38                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-16 13:50                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-16 15:13                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-16 15:30                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-16 16:10                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-16 16:23                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-16 16:44                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21  8:58                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21  9:15                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-21  9:31                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 10:23                                                                                               ` yyoncho
2019-04-21 10:37                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 11:38                                                                                                   ` yyoncho
2019-04-21 12:15                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 13:28                                                                                                       ` yyoncho [this message]
2019-04-21 19:03                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 20:13                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22  5:38                                                                                                           ` yyoncho
2019-04-22  8:01                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 13:00                                                                                                               ` yyoncho
2019-04-22 13:17                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 16:53                                                                                                                   ` Ivan
2019-04-22 16:58                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 22:17                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22  7:16                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 13:54                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 15:24                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 15:31                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-21 12:59                                                                                                 ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-21 13:09                                                                                                   ` yyoncho
2019-04-21 13:33                                                                                                     ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-22 11:48                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 12:12                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 12:24                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 13:02                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 15:02                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 15:36                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 16:16                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 16:28                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 16:44                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 16:50                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 17:05                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 17:24                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 21:03                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-23 10:22                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 11:39                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-23 13:19                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 16:49                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 17:11                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 17:26                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 22:23                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-23  6:00                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23  9:46                                                                                                                               ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-23 10:38                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 10:44                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-24  2:23                                                                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2019-04-22 17:12                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 21:00                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-21 22:14                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22  7:06                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21 22:12                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22  7:03                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 11:46                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 12:07                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 12:58                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 13:12                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 13:58                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 15:25                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 15:41                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 15:50                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 16:00                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 16:22                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 19:55                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 20:28                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 11:52                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-23 12:15                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 12:37                                                                                                                               ` yyoncho
2019-04-23 13:09                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 13:27                                                                                                                                   ` yyoncho
2019-04-23 14:24                                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 12:37                                                                                                                               ` Sébastien Chapuis
2019-04-23 13:10                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 14:22                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-23 14:40                                                                                                                                 ` Philipp Stephani
2019-04-23 15:09                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 15:17                                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 15:36                                                                                                                                     ` yyoncho
2019-04-23 15:39                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 15:43                                                                                                                                         ` yyoncho
2019-04-23 22:34                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-24  6:20                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24  6:57                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-24  7:28                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24  9:52                                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-23 14:58                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 15:55                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-24 16:21                                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 16:46                                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-24 17:06                                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 17:36                                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-24 17:43                                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-24 20:25                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-25 10:44                                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-25 14:27                                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-08-22 23:28                                                                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-23  5:50                                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 14:50                                                                                                                               ` Andy Moreton
2019-04-23 15:03                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-23 15:44                                                                                                                                   ` Andy Moreton
2019-04-22 11:36                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-22 12:01                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 13:11                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-03-30  9:07                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 18:20 ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-22 18:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 19:52     ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-22 20:05       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-04-23  3:06         ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-23 11:44           ` Dmitry Gutov

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