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From: Itai Berli <itai.berli@gmail.com>
To: 27525@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#27525: 25.1; Line wrapping of bidi paragraphs
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:19:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABsNJ=MrnXe7OopOnw=XUr536wTdq+f+uRjoMQQRiz1Pvrukww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bmofbc0f.fsf@gnu.org>

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You sure put a lot of thought and effort into it. Thank you for that.

Now that I have downloaded the source code, I'd like to take a look at this
problem first hand. I'm not a programmer, not even an amateur one, but I
can sometimes make sense of the general gist of code when I read it, and
I'd like to take a look at the part of code that's responsible for the
present bug, maybe put a breakpoint here and there and give it a test run
to get a feel of how it works, and why it misses the mark when it comes to
line wrapping bidi paragraphs.

Could you please give me some pointers: what files should I look into, what
functions should I read, possibly even suggestions for where to put
breakpoints and which variables to watch. I'm not asking for a
comprehensive and detailed run down of this feature; just a starting
point(s). Every tip and suggestion will be welcome.

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org
> > From: Itai Berli <itai.berli@gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:01:33 +0300
> >
> > I see no reason to continue this discussion any further.
>
> Thank you.
>
> > One thing I'm curious about, though. What bidi features exist in Emacs,
> half of which the other editors don't
> > have? Which features were you referring to when you wrote that, thanks
> to them, "10 years later, Emacs still
> > shines among all the bidi-aware editors out there"?
>
>  . For starters, all the UBA features are fully supported, including
>    the directional isolates and bracket-matching (a.k.a. "BPA").
>  . Support for bidirectional display on both GUI and text-mode terminals.
>  . Both logical-order and visual-order cursor motion.
>  . Full support for Arabic shaping and other complex-script shaping
>    features in bidirectional text (e.g., Hebrew "nikkud").
>  . Bidi formatting controls are visible on screen, so users don't need
>    to guess why display looks like it does.
>  . Variables to control where paragraphs begin and end, for the
>    purposes of determining base paragraph direction.
>  . Variables to disable mirroring of parentheses due to bidi context,
>    and even disable bidi reordering entirely, if needed.
>  . Lisp functions that are necessary when writing bidi-aware
>    customizations and features:
>    . a function that returns base paragraph direction at point
>    . a function that returns resolved bidi levels for a line
>    . a function that takes a string and wraps it so that it could be
>      concatenated with other strings without fear of producing jumbled
>      display due to reordering (important for tabular display)
>    . a function to find characters whose directionality was overridden
>      by bidi controls (which could be used to maliciously dupe the
>      user to think a string is not what it really is)
>    . a function to return a substring of buffer text surrounded by
>      bidi controls that make sure its visual appearance will not
>      change when copied to a different portion of text
>
> And that is even before we consider Emacs-only features, which those
> other editors can only dream about, like mouse-highlight, display and
> overlay strings, invisible text, text alignment on display, etc. --
> all of which are bidi-aware in Emacs.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-21  6:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-29  7:23 bug#27525: 25.1; Line wrapping of bidi paragraphs Itai Berli
2017-06-29 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-29 18:35 ` Itai Berli
2017-07-04  9:10 ` Itai Berli
2017-07-04  9:11   ` Itai Berli
2017-07-04  9:19     ` Itai Berli
2017-07-04 14:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 14:52         ` Itai Berli
2017-07-04 15:19           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 23:05       ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-05  2:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-05 22:59           ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-06  2:39             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-06 16:01               ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-06 16:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-07 18:23                   ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-07 19:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-09 18:17           ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2017-07-09 18:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-19  8:50               ` Itai Berli
2017-07-19 12:59                 ` Itai Berli
2017-07-19 17:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-19 21:40                     ` Itai Berli
2017-07-20  5:08                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-20  7:01                         ` Itai Berli
2017-07-20 11:09                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-21  6:19                             ` Itai Berli [this message]
2017-07-21  8:37                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-21  9:44                                 ` Itai Berli
2017-07-21 10:58                                   ` Itai Berli
2017-07-21 13:19                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-21 13:01                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-19 17:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-04 14:40   ` Eli Zaretskii

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