From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "N. Jackson" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16455: 24.3; (Emacs Info) h command behaves like H command Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 23:03:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389841450 28547 80.91.229.3 (16 Jan 2014 03:04:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 03:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16455@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 16 04:04:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W3dFf-00083i-E3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 04:04:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58188 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3dFe-00024U-UB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 22:04:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36461) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3dFX-00024O-TV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 22:04:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3dFT-0000iw-40 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 22:04:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38670) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3dFT-0000is-1C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 22:04:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W3dFS-0005Kh-II for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 22:04:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "N. Jackson" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 03:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16455 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16455-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16455.138984143020479 (code B ref 16455); Thu, 16 Jan 2014 03:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16455) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2014 03:03:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52689 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W3dFF-0005KE-Qi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 22:03:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ve0-f194.google.com ([209.85.128.194]:57705) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W3dFD-0005K6-8R for 16455@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 22:03:48 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ve0-f194.google.com with SMTP id jw12so145625veb.1 for <16455@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 19:03:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dfklMtcZr0JwXyVBC231p6CornuQnCS3QNwtKXIEqp4=; b=Ft2iLMZNCBnoFq6bvi0b6/q35k1RjU94V3MYSAXnMRuP8cwpyC7ruQvx9FxahyQkkZ VkCDSbHTEpABsu3YtPU1DZpMMh2TIien/YTbEOzLkYIzw7Ery29PcBP69iNbxeXJPuCL 8xNsuxtT/AiP9UaZN1rf6etxaHEIVl5WKRRPRuULs52iwQD+bk6pGMP0pEWXxHkyCJWd /XJWVOi5/CjqiaEhL+KJUJbiWyb6CagqRKj9XmjPUd6xIKg5vEt4VpprqLp2JrW1e9WS fchDM80MwolaRlPS3aaDYRvePLnnshcrm/wF+eOshrZOqfSsjVPiR1m++azY6hl2hYsT 20Dg== X-Received: by 10.59.0.193 with SMTP id ba1mr4517648ved.12.1389841426549; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 19:03:46 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.58.152.175 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 19:03:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83568 Archived-At: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Use standard Emacs commands for listing key bindings, eg `C-h m'. Ah! Thank you Glen. That's exactly what I wanted to see. I had no idea that C-h m listed key bindings, I thought it just provided information about the prevailing modes. Of course, key bindings in a mode are information about the mode. I'd just never thought of it. I haven't used C-h m since I ran the Emacs tutorial three and a half years ago. >From there it brings up information about fundamental mode, no obvious key binding documentation, and I had filed the command in my head as "rather useless"! My mistake. So the confusion turns out to be my ignorance plus the inconsistent Info documentation, and no bug in Emacs [Currently. Although if the Info documentation is fixed to be self-consistent, it seems that Emacs Info mode might need to change so that H invokes the Info tutorial?], so please close this bug. Sorry for wasting time.