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From: Otso Rajala <ojrajala@gmail.com>
To: 24197@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24197: Removing lisp/play from standard Emacs package
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:43:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABFCWTP51EdMPtQqGpHODvEN2NEHBSe7o2=URH2qmU4j7LTD8w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

Emacs is primarily used as a text editor. Toys shipped in lisp/play directory
are fun, no question about that. Do they belong into core disribution of Emacs
is another question.

Problems:
1) They increase package size.
2) Their existence clutters M-x <tab> autocomplete lists: example M-x bu <tab>
has all things buffer, but also shows bubbles and butterfly, hardly useful
during editing process.
3) Tools > Games is a bit confusing: games are not tools by definition.
4) Help > Psychotherapist is toy in documentation menu.

Solution:
1) Make these toys in lisp/play optionally available from
elpa.gnu.org/packages, but do not ship them by default within
Emacs.

Advantage of solution:
1) All problems go away
2) Simple lisp game sources now easily accessible right from common browser
for fun & inspiration without having to download 56M tar.gz editor with them.
3) Fair towards other toys, considering sokoban and wpuzzle are there but don't
ship by default.

- Otso





             reply	other threads:[~2016-08-10 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-10 13:43 Otso Rajala [this message]
2016-08-10 16:07 ` bug#24197: Removing lisp/play from standard Emacs package Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-11  5:27   ` Richard Stallman
2016-08-10 17:06 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-08-10 18:39 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-08-10 20:30 ` Ivan Shmakov

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