From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eijiro Sumii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36779: 25.1; mouse click not recognized for frames with large left position Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 06:09:54 +0900 Message-ID: References: <835zmyqxfz.fsf@gnu.org> <20190816.163356.2263652830545554088.sumii@ecei.tohoku.ac.jp> <83a7c9pllx.fsf@gnu.org> <834l2hp96p.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2ztnqw9.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000017647d0590426ae0" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="203997"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Eijiro Sumii , 36779@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 16 23:11:16 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hyjVD-000qtd-1G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 23:11:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59968 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hyjVB-0005ma-8a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:11:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59659) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hyjV2-0005mK-AI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hyjV1-00076q-91 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:11:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46253) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hyjV1-00076j-6e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:11:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hyjV1-00056W-0W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:11:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eijiro Sumii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 21:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36779 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36779-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36779.156598981119519 (code B ref 36779); Fri, 16 Aug 2019 21:11:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2019 21:10:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55068 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hyjUA-00054l-QJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:10:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eimail.ecei.tohoku.ac.jp ([130.34.41.153]:46222) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hyjU9-00054c-8B for 36779@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:10:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eimail.ecei.tohoku.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss71 (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04C736CB for <36779@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 06:10:06 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mail-io1-f41.google.com (mail-io1-f41.google.com [209.85.166.41]) by eimail.ecei.tohoku.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2E0436BD for <36779@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 06:10:06 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mail-io1-f41.google.com with SMTP id t6so8958506ios.7 for <36779@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:10:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVA2Bvwdv9x608DVC6PFlQ0PdcP7WX+chiaCqJDJXUf1PPGcuqR AB2U8smmYHUm9cB0QPoErhqWxVdNbJ4LN+pllCw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzGGJPMMNPDsak7uHADn4QZgWkfKAwnDcJ8szV3QwDDqDfbiSTRwNkM2r23yJjtENs+cBdocUG6adV5LPXHEIc= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:be02:: with SMTP id o2mr8299002iof.109.1565989805710; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:10:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83y2ztnqw9.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:165233 Archived-At: --00000000000017647d0590426ae0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > As I wrote a few times, the reason why the problem seems to happen > > only to Emacs is still unknown, and I presume some readers would be > > eager to understand the (rather complex) situation, for which they > > have to read the gdb logs and watch the movie. I don't think there is > > any way to explain them in "a few lines". > > An entry in PROBLEMS doesn't need to explain all the internal details, > just what software causes it and how to work around it. In our case "what software causes it" (Emacs or the X server) is not clear, and the "workaround" is quite unsatisfactory (having to restart the entire X system - the server and all the clients). That's why some readers would need the link to the details. (At least I would be rather frustrated if the file only tells the problem without information for such details!) --00000000000017647d0590426ae0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> As I wrote a few times, the reason why the problem seems to happen
> only to Emacs is still unknown, and I presume some readers would be > eager to understand the (rather complex) situation, for which they
> have to read the gdb logs and watch the movie.=C2=A0 I don't think= there is
> any way to explain them in "a few lines".

An entry in PROBLEMS doesn't need to explain all the internal details,<= br> just what software causes it and how to work around it.

In our case "what software caus= es it" (Emacs or the X server) is not clear, and the "workaround&= quot; is quite unsatisfactory (having to restart the entire X system - the = server and all the clients).=C2=A0 That's why some readers would need t= he link to the details. =C2=A0(At least I would be rather frustrated if the= file only tells the problem without information for such details!)

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