From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Amritpal Singh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63831: Accidentally submit two bug reports for the same topic Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2023 09:16:49 +0530 Message-ID: References: <83bkhyawp8.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2050"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 63831@debbugs.gnu.org, "eliz@gnu.org" To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 04 10:10:40 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q5ioy-0000Lw-C7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 10:10:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5iod-0005XA-BS; 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Each bug report is approved by a human, to > > avoid the catastrophic consequences of admitting spam to the bug list. > > So it might take some time, especially if the person who approves the > > bug reports and you live in different time zones. > There are good reasons for this, but can we do something to help > bug submitters understand the situation? > For instance, we could set up an immeidate auto-reply to inform them > of the delay to expect. > If we had two people to do the moderation, maybe they could work > at different times of day -- that would shorten the usual wait time > without incresaing the work. While we're on the topic of bug report moderation, is it possible that the current human moderation might be a little ineffective? We've observed that me accidentally submitting a duplicate report made it through human filters, and I had notice another instance of a "spam" email, where no subject or body was present. See: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2023-06/msg00107.html I'm not trying to impugn someone else's ability of moderating but the current system seems a little ineffective. Also I'd like to apologize if my language/wording seems abrasive towards the moderation team as this is no way an insult to their work but rather a lack of implementation of better systems by management. I'd also like to draw attention towards the actual bug+patch report #63831, it's been close to two days now and such a small change could easily be merged into HEAD. But the bug does seem low priority (even though breaking) to me as well so I would not question the maintainers' decision to prioritize critical bugs over this. I wish you a good day/night and, again would like to apoligise for any rude language. Regards, Amritpal Singh