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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>,
	ture@turepalsson.se, "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	41445@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#41445: 26.3; Query-replace triggers "match data clobbered by..."
Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 14:37:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAArVCkRKdP8YcyapOMa66p+HEvgK1XUA+xpq_rhg3UvZV-svQQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83tv06zvgl.fsf@gnu.org>

Am Sa., 23. Mai 2020 um 14:29 Uhr schrieb Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
>
> > From: Mattias Engdegård <mattiase@acm.org>
> > Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 13:36:37 +0200
> > Cc: ture@turepalsson.se, 41445@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > > My line of reasoning was that only the callers of ENCODE_FILE and
> > > DECODE_FILE will not expect the match-data to be clobbered.  Code that
> > > calls ucs-normalize-region directly may or may not be bothered by the
> > > clobbering, so we should leave that to the caller.
> > >
> > > The advantage of not doing this unconditionally is that we don't
> > > unnecessarily punishing callers that don't need match-data to be
> > > saved.
> >
> > For callers of the ucs-normalize- functions, correctness should come first; their names, semantics or descriptions do not lead the user to suspect them of clobbering the match data. It is an implementation leakage which can be quite unexpected, as is witnessed by this bug.
>
> I thought we had some advice to Lisp programs not to assume that
> match-data will be preserved, but maybe I'm misremembering.  Stefan,
> do you remember something along these lines?

That's at least what the manual says
(https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Match-Data.html):
"Notice that all functions are allowed to overwrite the match data
unless they're explicitly documented not to do so."
(Not that I like that statement, but it is current reality.)





  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-23 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-22  5:07 bug#41445: 26.3; Query-replace triggers "match data clobbered by..." Ture Pålsson
2020-05-22 10:46 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-22 11:11   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-22 11:16     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-22 12:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-22 12:21         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-22 12:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 11:36         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-23 12:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 12:37             ` Philipp Stephani [this message]
2020-05-23 13:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 13:08               ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-23 13:36             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-23 15:43               ` Drew Adams
2020-05-27 14:31               ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-27 15:54                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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